Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum
:

Help With H Steering!!

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
1PWRFULH

07-16-2001 15:12:08




Report to Moderator

Ok well I decided today to take a look at the H's steering because at full speed that thing wobbles so badyou just wonder if something is going to break. Took the shaft apart at the u joint and it appears that the worm gear has too much play in it. It allows the rod to turn quite a bit before moving the sector gear. That big plug was as tight as it wuld go and the bearing in there looks fine. I dont think that it is nothing more than those 2 gears. Can I get replacements or what is the easiest way? Is that worm gear made onto that shaft meaning I would have to buy the whole shaft too or not? Everything was covered in soo much grease I couldnt see it very well. I tried turning the gear 180 degrees like I read in the archives but it didnt help. Suppose you are looking at one of the steering wheel spokes when it is straight up the spoke will move about 60 degrees before you start turning the wheels. I have a feeling these gears cost a lot and should I rebuild the bottom while I'm at it? Well thanks!!

RC

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Haas

07-17-2001 06:01:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to 1PWRFULH, 07-16-2001 15:12:08  
The steering shaft and the worm gear are all one piece of metal. If there is any play at all in the ball bearing on the end of the worm shaft, you will have steering play. That bearing only costs less than $10 and it's easy to replace, so I would give that a try first. It may be that the bearing is not seated completely on the shaft. On my MD, I had to put a washer behind the castle nut to get the inner race of the bearing to tighten up against the end of the worm. Any washer you put behind the castle nut must contact only the castle nut and the inner race. Also, you must make sure the big plug tightens in far enough that the outer race is held securely against the steer box casting.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bob M

07-16-2001 19:33:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to 1PWRFULH, 07-16-2001 15:12:08  
Had a similar problem with my Super H. Cause turned out to be badly worn bushings holding the bolster pivot shaft and a missing spacer at the thrust bearing. New bushings and spacer cured the problem and cost less than $40.

Punch below for photos of the repair (if Photopoint stays up that is...)

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
1PWRFULH

07-16-2001 22:15:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to Bob M, 07-16-2001 19:33:12  
Hey Bob, Thanks for taking the time to reply and the others as well. Is it hard to replace the bushings in here and maybe the bearing and whatever else? Just by looking at it, it doesnt seem to hard. Any pre-cautions? I dont wanna get the thing apart and make it worse....haha! Im just debating to take it apart or not. If its pretty easy I guess I will. I know I've seen other tractors where there is almost no slop in the steering. Hope to get mine like that. Thanks!

RC

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bob M

07-17-2001 06:20:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to 1PWRFULH, 07-16-2001 22:15:30  
1PWRFULH - Glad you found my pix helpful. I found nothing overly difficult replacing the bushings. Just take normal precautions when disassembling - a couple of the parts are kinda heavy.

Hardest task was getting the sector gear off the top of the pivot shaft. It's on a tapered spline and was stuck on pretty good. Required some serious pounding with a 4# hammer on the top of the pivot shaft (with a scrap of copper bus bar protecting the threads) before it popped free.

I found the bolster bushings were easily driven out and replaced. Had a bit of a problem getting a new seal at the bottom of the gearbox started - it's deep in the "crotch" of the bolster casting, but a homemade tool cut from a broom handle quickly solved that.

Suggest this before you tear yours down: Jack the tractor under the clutch housing so the front wheels are hanging free. Remove the grille and the steering gearbox cover. You can then easily check for slop in the worm bearings, worm gear set, pivot shaft, etc. Figure if you have the right tools and a bit of luck you can do the job start to finish in a long 1/2 day.

Good luck!

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Chris

07-16-2001 18:07:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to 1PWRFULH, 07-16-2001 15:12:08  
Forgot to add that one piece isn't available any longer, and the other is "back-ordered".



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Chris

07-16-2001 18:05:44




Report to Moderator
 Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to 1PWRFULH, 07-16-2001 15:12:08  
Yes, the parts are expensive (from the Case/IH dealer). The gear and shaft with the other gear total almost $500! OUCH! You might find a better one in a salvage yard, but would be difficult. My Dad told me there was a way to adjust/tighten, maybe the other post is the way. I'm printing it out 'cuz mines loose too!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TomH

07-16-2001 17:00:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: Help With H Steering!! in reply to 1PWRFULH, 07-16-2001 15:12:08  
You can take a lot of the slop out of the steering by tightening two nuts in the right order. There is a castle nut on the shaft that stops the worm when you turn the steering wheel to the left, the big plug stops it when the wheel is turned to the right. To adjust, turn the wheel to the right until it is against the plug, then tighten the castle nut to take out the slop. This is from memory but I think the directions are right, look at how the shaft moves when the plug is out and you'll see how it works.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy