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Don Benson

02-27-2007 15:50:27




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Fist let me thank all the people who have helped me on this site with my IH300 utility repairs you all are great. Secondly, The hydraulic control valve was leaking by so the cylinder would not stay up. I isolated the Cylinder and it is fine so I attempted to rebuild the valve but found it to be missing many parts. I would like to replace this valve with a new one with a "float feature" for my box blade. My question is I have 3 threaded ports coming out of the side of the tractor, what do each Do, how do I convert it and what is the best valve to use.

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georgeky

02-28-2007 10:06:14




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 Re: hydraulic problem in reply to Don Benson, 02-27-2007 15:50:27  
I'm sorry I was thinking of the traction control hitch. I dont think the older one has the float feature. But am not sure.



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georgeky

02-28-2007 10:02:35




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 Re: hydraulic problem in reply to Don Benson, 02-27-2007 15:50:27  
If the hitch is anything like the row crop there is already a float feature on the hitch itself. On the bottom of cylinder there is a pin that can be removed to allow floating of hitch.



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JayWalt

02-27-2007 22:43:05




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 Re: hydraulic problem in reply to Don Benson, 02-27-2007 15:50:27  
The lower port is the res dump port, it flows right into the resevoir. The upper larger port is the pump pressure line. The smaller port is the regulator line. The system works as follows...

Pressure is fed into the regulator lines and acts on the safety vavle. when the safety valve sees full pressure in this line, it dumps the pump pressure into the resevoir. The system runs between 30 and 60 lbs this way. As soon as any movement is done to the valve, it creates a pressure drop through the regulator line and when the safety valve sees this, it causes the pump to instanlty build up pressure to the control valves. This is a hard process to describe without illustrations.

I thoerize that if you cap the small port, and use the bottom port as a dump, and the top large port as the pump feed to open center control vavles, that it should work. The documentation I have here doesnt specifically say what the ports are or how they interact between the front and rear set.. However, all of the pressure control is done via the safety vavle, and removing it and using it as I said should work unless I have overlooked something. The ports on the resevoir should be NPT holes and should readily except fittings. If you do that, I would advise smearing some thick grease on the oring lands afterwards so they dont get corroded in case someone in the future wants to convert back.

I believe if you have one hydratouch control valve which you want to keep, if you mount it on the safety valve and do as I said above that the system will also work. I really meant to map out the ports when I had the res cover off of mine, as that would give me a more definite answer for you. I can scan the 18 page hydraulic manual. It is not EXACT to the 300u (it is for the farmall 300 and 400 series which are pretty much the same design wise), but the system is basically the same and has taught me alot.

I wish I could be of a more definite help.

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Nat 2

02-27-2007 15:58:17




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 Re: hydraulic problem in reply to Don Benson, 02-27-2007 15:50:27  
So far as I know, there is no way to plumb up an aftermarket hydraulic valve to that tractor. It doesn't have a place where you can simply tap into the system to add a valve. It doesn't have a "power beyond."

Where are these ports on the side of the tractor?

The valve that you're working on... That's one of the ones in the stack under the seat, right? You can get a used replacement valve pretty reasonable. I'm just wondering how the valve could be "missing many parts." What is missing?

If you really want to, you can add a float valve by connecting its in and out ports to one of your hydraulic remotes, then wire the handle for that remote valve open.

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Don Benson

02-27-2007 16:08:44




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 Re: hydraulic problem in reply to Nat 2, 02-27-2007 15:58:17  
the ports are on the side under the seat where the old stacking valves mounted up, who ever attemped to rebuild the valve(s) was a lover of instant gasket and lost the whole front assembly including bushings and yoke



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