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Tim

07-10-2003 19:32:56

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I am getting ready to paint my '45 Farmall A. What would you recommend for primer and paint?

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John

07-11-2003 18:51:56

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Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Tim, 07-10-2003 19:32:56

If you want the BEST, use Dupont 615 + 620 self etching primer, 2 coats, then Glaserite primer to fill in nicks and give it a waterproof primer. Top coat it with Dupont Imron. You will need a booth or some setup to suck out the overspray and an air supply system. The paint and primer may cost you what you paid for your tractor, but it will look sooooo good!!!! I painted my front door on my house like that, everybody says WOW!!!!

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F-Dean

07-11-2003 04:38:42

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Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Tim, 07-10-2003 19:32:56

For you guys with older tractors, Van Sickle in Lincoln, Nebraska makes a pretty good IHC gray.

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Terry

07-10-2003 21:26:10

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Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Tim, 07-10-2003 19:32:56

According to a book I have, the IH 2150 takes the place of the IH 50 paint that they use to have.

I don't know if they both are exactly the same color, my book doesn't say.

I have decided to stay away from the two part paint because of the difficulty of touching up the paint if and when it is necessary.

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CNKS

07-11-2003 20:10:49

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Re: Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Terry, 07-10-2003 21:26:10

50 is a brighter red. Unless you are a purist it doesn't make any difference.

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Bill B

07-11-2003 05:30:47

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Re: Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Terry, 07-10-2003 21:26:10

Two part paint is no more difficult to touch up than plain enamel. It is the base coat-clear coat that is more difficult.

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Bill B

07-10-2003 19:50:14

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Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Tim, 07-10-2003 19:32:56

If you want to save money and do it like the factory did, just use the IH paint. If you want it to shine, and last in the sun and acid rain, then I reccomend PPG epoxy primer (red) and PPG urethane top coat. the cheap (?) PPG omni paint works pretty good, but the expensive Concept paint is the very best. It cost terrible, but the results are excellent. Most folks just use the IH enamel, but I think you get what you pay for. I have tried them all, even tisco paint, and the best results were from the Concept I put on my F20.

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CNKS

07-10-2003 20:05:02

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Re: Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Bill B, 07-10-2003 19:50:14

Actually if you want to do it like the factory did, IH 2150 is incorrect. The '45 came with IH 50, which you can't get from Case-IH -- PPG or DuPont can mix it.

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CNKS

07-10-2003 19:46:31

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Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Tim, 07-10-2003 19:32:56

You said best -- PPG or DuPont acrylic urethane. Requires supplied air respirator (about $500) to keep you alive. One step down: PPG or Dupont acrylic enamel without hardener (twin cartridge respirator) over epoxy primer and hardener (PPG's does not contain iso's), and primer surfacer on the sheet metal (cast gets epoxy only). Another step down: Case-IH 2150 and their primer (but I would still recommend epoxy primer). That is the minimum satisfactory paint. Don't use paint from TSC or other farm stores, as it is not high quality. For more details (and there are lots of them) check the archives on the painting forum.

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Paul in Mich

07-10-2003 21:59:08

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Re: Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to CNKS, 07-10-2003 19:46:31

when using IH 2150 with hardner, can a retarder be used at the same time to minimize clouding and that overspray look? Everything looks fine where I spray, but as I progress, it loses the wet look.

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Bill B

07-11-2003 05:28:44

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Re: Re: Re: Best Primer and Paint in reply to Paul in Mich, 07-10-2003 21:59:08

It is important to use thinner matched to the ambient temperature. If it is drying too fast, use a hotter temperature thinner than ambient temperature. This will give you time to finish. It also helps to plan ahead on how you move around the machine, so that you dont end up where you first started, but move in a pattern that lets you finish at the opposite end of where you started. In other words, do not work around in a circle, but alternate from side to side working from one end to another.

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