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william p

08-09-2003 05:04:41

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one cylendar has miss smokes bad have been told it could be rod. that doesn't sound rigrt to me. any suggestion. thanks

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08-10-2003 10:06:10

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Re: i h 584 in reply to william p, 08-09-2003 05:04:41

Hi, can you determine which cylinder is missing?
If you can determine which cylinder is missing do an injector swap to another cylinder and see if problem follows injector.

CAUTION: FUEL LINE FROM INJECTOR PUMP IS UNDER ABOUT 2100 PSI PRESSURE and WILL PENETRATE SKIN AND CAUSE BLOOD PIOSIONING. WEAR PROTECTIVE GLOVES and EYE WEAR WHEN DOING THE FOLLOWING.

To determine bad cylinder will engine is running loosen nut on fuel line into injector util fuel leaks. If engine runs worse this is not bad cylinder. Re-tighten nut and try the next cylinder. Repeat until you find bad cylinder.
Then shut off engine and mark and swap suspect injector with another cylinder. Becareful to tighten the two hold down nuts on the injector evenly so injector will seat properly. Leave the input fuel line nuts on the swapped injectors loose to allow bleeding of air. Start the engine again and tighten the fuel line nuts on the injectors. Repeat the test for bad injector but now only doing on the two cylinders that you swapped injectors on.
Does problem follow injector or cylinder ?

The good news would be that the problem follows the marked injector. Bad news is cylinder.

BE CAREFUL WITH HIGH PRESSURE DIESEL FUEL
JB

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tbear

08-09-2003 10:23:17

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Re: i h 584 in reply to william p, 08-09-2003 05:04:41

well it sounds like bad injection wether it's pump or injector i would buy a rebuild kit rebuild the motor and send the injectors out to be rebuilt then your sure to fix it and not have a problem in the future.a complete rebuild kit is under 1000 dollars from international and injectors will cost approx 100-150 per injector so for under 2k you will have a tractor that can service you for a long time.

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Farmall Don

08-09-2003 06:53:43

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Re: i h 584 in reply to william p, 08-09-2003 05:04:41

Does it smoke out the breather? My 706 did and it burned a whole in the #6 piston. Bad timing and wrong octane (87) gas caused it. I check the timing twice a year and set up a special gas tank in the yard for my 706 gas now.

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Farmall Don

08-09-2003 06:58:32

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Re: Re: i h 584 in reply to Farmall Don, 08-09-2003 06:53:43

Now that I think about it, a 584 has a diesel doesnt it? Opps. Anyway, could it have a ring problem (broken)?

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