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Cream Colored Tranny Oil

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BlueLite

12-11-2003 04:56:47




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A few months ago I had a mechanic change the oil in my tranny of my 424. I found that strange as my bill wasn't large enough to cover the cost of 5 gals of oil, so I figured he got it cheaper in bulk. Also the drain plug
was caked with dirt and there was no tool marks on it.

Just recently I pulled the hydraulic housing off to replace the piston seal. Well the tranny oil was yellow, and that is usually an indicator of water in oil.

Ya gotta watch these mechanics. Here's a guy who figured he would make 20bcks off of me, figured this green horn don't know anything about tractor maintenance. He lost out in the hundreds as I will never do business with him again.

I drained the tranny and cleaned out the grey sludge at the bottom of the case and about a cup of ice. I saved 20gal of oil from a drain of my MH tranny I did a couple of years ago. The oil was yellow on that too but it had time to settle out and the oil was gold colored and clean. I filtered it out using a linen sheet just in case. There was a 2 inch block of ice with dirt mixed in on the bottom of the pail.

I should let my suspicions come out right away and ask him how he managed to get the oil out without removing the drain plug.

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Bill Smith

12-11-2003 11:48:24




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 Re: Cream Colored Tranny Oil in reply to BlueLite, 12-11-2003 04:56:47  
Water in oil can change the color to a cream. Foreign chemicals can do bad things to oil. Sounds like to me the mechanic charged you for something he didn't do, or he did a very bad job of it. I will have to say that I agree with Randy. If you took the time to do it right yourself, why did you use second hand used oil? I don't beleive I would re-use used engine oil that I let sit for 2 years to let contaminates settle out of it. Same difference for transmissions and rear ends wouldn't it be? I believe I would of footed the bill for new oil even if it was several gallons. Never the less, if you are absolutely sure the mechanic didn't do the work, I would for sure confront him about it. You never know, you might get your money back, he might offer to do an equivelant job for free, or if nothing else he will know that he can't just rip somebody off without them finding out about it. Just my 2 cents.

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ken

12-11-2003 15:57:17




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 Re: Re: Cream Colored Tranny Oil in reply to Bill Smith, 12-11-2003 11:48:24  
beings you put the (good) looking used oil in it i'd drive it around with no load for a while and get the oil good and hot then dump it while still hot should help flush out what sludge is in there and what water could be left but definitely get it out of there.



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Randy in NE

12-11-2003 10:35:33




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 Re: Cream Colored Tranny Oil in reply to BlueLite, 12-11-2003 04:56:47  
My question is: Why would you put used oil that has been sitting around for a couple of years back into a tractor? Just because the sludge and water settled out doesn't mean that there aren't other impurities remaining in the oil. The break down of lubricants can not be seen by the naked eye. The few dollars that you saved here could come back to bite you in the future. Not to seem like a jerk but I don't see your solution to the oil change much better than the unscrupulous mechanic. Just my $0.02 worth.

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aaron

12-11-2003 10:10:52




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 Re: Cream Colored Tranny Oil in reply to BlueLite, 12-11-2003 04:56:47  
Even if he did vacuum it out the top, he did a crappy job by not cleaning out all the sludge from the bottom. People go to mechanics when the mechanic can perform better the job better than ourselves. So, he did a crappy job.



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jal-SD

12-11-2003 05:52:46




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 Re: Cream Colored Tranny Oil in reply to BlueLite, 12-11-2003 04:56:47  
Bet he used Hy-Tran, that looks yellow & is supposed to be used in a 424, I think. Probably vacuumed it out of the top & left the crap in the bottom. (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)



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Van

12-11-2003 05:31:43




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 Re: Cream Colored Tranny Oil in reply to BlueLite, 12-11-2003 04:56:47  
I would take him a sample and get my money back. If you dont bet it back, at least you won't use him in the future when the job maybe large and expensive. That was the best 20 bucks you ever spent. It may save you hundreds later.



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