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IH 354 clutch problems

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Ronofohio

12-30-2003 11:11:55




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My brother in law has a IH 354 that he is unable to shift as long as the engine is running. It worked fine until he drove it into his garage and noticed that pushing on the clutch lever made no difference and he consequently hit the back wall. Sounds to me like the clutch throw-out bearing is frozen and needs adjusting or replacement or something. I guess my question is "is the clutch just mechanical like most or does it have some sort of slave cylinder system?" I don't have the tractor or manual present and have to comunicate with him by phone.

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fergfarm

12-31-2003 21:46:04




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
GG is right. remove the access cover and if all the fingers are in place the disc may be stuck. I have had this happen several times.
Block the pedal down or have someone hold it.
take a thin blade screw driver and go between the disc and flywheel to release the disc.
On a recessed flywheel you may have to turn it around to find a hole to get to the edge of the disc.
Drilled a hole in the bell houseing on a yammar once to get one unstuck because they don,t have a access.

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IT WORKED!!!

12-31-2003 15:21:36




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
Took my 354 out today after warming it up real good. I started it in grear and then drove around the field with my foot on the clutch pedal while alternately applying opposite brakes. I parked it for another ten minutes while letting it run, and then pushed the clutch in and felt alittle pop when the disk finally released from the flywheel. I believe that it has been rusted on for almost a year. Seems great now. I suggest that you give this a try before you split the tractor for a clutch job.

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Ronofohio

12-31-2003 07:23:39




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
Lots of good information here and I thank you all for it. Following your guide lines, I don't expect too much trouble dealing with this clutch problem..... Thanks again..... Ron



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Wayne

12-30-2003 23:08:12




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
I have recently purchased a 354 that has been sitting for awhile and has the same problem. I have been reading other posts about stuck clutches (disk rusted to the flywheel). I was about to try and drive it around tomorrow in order to try and break it loose. Any ideas?



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Ronofohio

12-31-2003 07:19:25




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 Re: Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Wayne, 12-30-2003 23:08:12  
I read that sometimes a disk can actually be 'frozen' to the flywheel and putting the tractor out of gear and pulling it around for awhile will generally break it free. I will try this before I take the clutch apart, but I will remove the plate and inspect as much as I can before I try anything. Thanks for all info..Ron



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lee

12-30-2003 21:09:13




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
The 354 may be equipped with a single plate clutch, a heavy duty single plate clutch, or a dual clutch. If it's standard single plate or heavy duty single plate it's pretty straight forward with friction disk, pressure plate, 3 release fingers and coil springs. If it's the dual clutch it's got two friction disks, two pressure plates, 3 release fingers and two large belleville washers as spring members. A single broken finger will cause the problem you describe as will a damaged friction disk. Or maybe the clutch pedal lever has slipped on the release shaft. All the clutches have specs for height of release fingers off the flywheel face and for other things as well. The dual clutch has additional specs to set the pto release point. Be sure you get the right friction disk for the clutch you have. One time I replaced the engine clutch disk in a 354 and the guy sold me the wrong disk. It may have been a heavy duty disk,
a little thicker than the right disk for that clutch. Needless to say, I did not notice the difference. It went together fine as for adjustments and such. I put the whole tractor back together only to find I could not release the pto clutch. The whole thing had to come back apart. A battle ensued with the parts supplier as he told me over the phone the disk was right and claimed I had screwed the clutch up. I took the clutch disk back and by the time I got there he had found the correct disk with a different part#.

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parts man

12-30-2003 19:31:42




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
The 354 has a mechanical clutch. It sounds to me like a broken finger or adjusting bolt. Rebuilt assemblies are availlable through after-market dealers.



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GG

12-30-2003 15:35:23




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 Re: IH 354 clutch problems in reply to Ronofohio, 12-30-2003 11:11:55  
There is a flat steel plate mounted underneath the clutch housing. You may be able to see what the problem is after removing this plate.



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