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Cylinder Sleeve Puller?

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C'ville Bill

01-04-2004 18:12:40

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I need to pull sleeves from an H and a 10-20. Can anyone recommend a tool? I've seen some very expensive ones and don't want to go there.
Thanks, C'ville Bill

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Wayne Swenson

01-05-2004 10:43:27

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

I just go to my local machine shop that I get my machining work done at and borrow his for the day.
It has a double hydraulic jack set-up for pressure and works very nicely.

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REDS

01-05-2004 04:20:36

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

Save yourself some time and headache. Either buy the correct puller, or take it to someone that knows what he is doing. I just saw a picture on this site where a guy tried to make up a puller for a Farmall M. He broke a big chunck out of the block. Now he needs a block too.

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nate

01-05-2004 03:20:00

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

ive done a bunch 0f c 123 wet sleeve mototrs and been around or helped with a bunch of h sleeve jobs. we usualy use an old piston (this process usually ruins a piston and the rings for sure) put a ring in the top groove, bevel side down. compress the ring, and put the piston down into the sleeve, go to the bottom till the ring pops out.be careful as there isnt much room between the botom of the sleeve,and the bottom of the bore. we make a fake connecting rod about one and a half times the length of the real rod out of tubing. just weld a t on the top, then put a bottle jack under both sides of the t, and pump them up. the sleeve usually walks right up. usually have to use a new ring for each piston. i have only had one i couldnt get this way, and it was a newer job, with green loctite holding them in. a former ih mechanic came to the rescue,and said this was the second hardest sleeve pull he had ever done. the first hardest he said his puller base went down through the top of the block ruining it. when i did my 300, i took it to the loclal machine shop. i was putting thinner sleeves in, and didnt want to worry about breaking a new one.the machine shop only charged about 35 bucks to switch sleeves.i also had them put in new cam bearings, which i didnt have the tool to do. a 10-20 block may be a diiferent story. it might be a little much for the average machine shop.
nate

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Brad

01-04-2004 20:58:40

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

I got one of Ron Jacobson's pullers but it still couldn't budge the sleeves on my 46 A. I had to press them out with my shop press.

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Kelly C

01-04-2004 19:15:45

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

I had a puller made for my H and 300.
Cost was $75 plus shipping also $15 for additional disk. Came to $107 with shipping.
Havent used it yet. Will be doing my 300 soon.
Got it from:
Ron Jacobson 74358 J Rd Loomis NE 68958 farmerron@navix.net

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Farmall-Nut

01-04-2004 18:46:54

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

C'ville Bill, The best thing I've seen is the low power welding rod. I have pulled sleeves from an H a Super H a 300 and an M using this method. I merely use a stick welder(easier to get in the sleeve). Using low amperage and stick, walk a zig-zag pattern from one end to the other of the sleeve. Then go to the opposite side and do the same thing. Keep the rod moving fairly quickly always. Once you have both opposing sides, allow the sleeve to cool and with a small punch begin to tap around the bottom. The shrinking caused by the weld will allow the old sleeve to be removed much easier than any puller. I have never damaged the outer sleeve in doing this and I swear by it...ED

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lee

01-05-2004 12:08:44

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Re: Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to Farmall-Nut, 01-04-2004 18:46:54

This sounds like a great way to go on stubborn sleeves.

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Ron

01-04-2004 18:42:10

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

You can make a good one with a piece of channel iron for the top, a Long bolt, and the right sized steel piece, cut to just fit over the bottom of the sleeve... Tighten the bolt...the sleeve raises up..

Now, if you are talking about pulling Ford 9N Dry Sleeves, I think you can forget it... They are "Sweat in", or "Shrunk in" using dry ice and are very tight...

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Dick

01-04-2004 18:40:44

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Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to C'ville Bill, 01-04-2004 18:12:40

I had a local machine shop turn a stepped cap the right size to fit the bottom of the sleeve - it cost me about $40. Then, I used a piece of all-thread rod and some scrap steel to make a puller similar to the commercial sleeve pullers you see advertised. Worked great!

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Pete L

01-08-2004 09:41:33

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Re: Re: Cylinder Sleeve Puller? in reply to Dick, 01-04-2004 18:40:44

Did most of what Dick did for pulling my F-20 sleeves. The critical thing is a stepped disk turned to a loose fit of the lower end of the sleeve, with the larger diameter less than the OD of the sleeve. A piece of 1 x 3 flat bar for a cross piece with a 1" hole drilled thru the center, 2 pieces of squared off 1 1/2" pipe for uprights, and 2 pieces of 1" plate to spread the load on top of the block. Pull the disk up to the bottom of the sleeve with a piece of 7/8" threaded rod and start cranking. My wet sleeves came out easily. Took more time to build the puller than to pull the sleeves.

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