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Engine # vs. Serial #

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Brett

03-08-2004 19:45:33




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My 1944 H has had a missing serial number plate since I have owned her. I originally thought that the engine number was the same as the serial number but now I am told differently. Is there any way to figure out what a tractor's real serial number was if the plate is gone? Would Case-IH have any archival info that they could trace by engine #?




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Farmallkid

03-09-2004 12:15:48




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 Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Brett, 03-08-2004 19:45:33  
52 is my M, the H is a 51. The ones on my M dont match. Engines a 51 and the rest is 52.



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Farmallkid

03-09-2004 12:14:13




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 Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Brett, 03-08-2004 19:45:33  
The numbers on my brothers H match up, its a 52



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jed

03-09-2004 05:41:32




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 Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Brett, 03-08-2004 19:45:33  
How do you know that the block is even original.
In 60 years there is a good possibility it was replaced. Farmers didn't like the added expense of antifreeze , so they simply pulled the water drain plug. I have seen many cracked blocks as a result of that practise and replaced many over the years. Unless you got the tractor from the original owner you never really know the history. Another common fix for a tractor that jumps out of gear was to replace the whole rear end assemble with another, that then gives you a new serial # tag. A lot of these old Farmalls are "Johnny Cash Tractors".

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Mark -- Michigan

03-08-2004 21:33:48




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 Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Brett, 03-08-2004 19:45:33  
Bret -- For what it's worth. The chassis and engine serial numbers match on my 1944 Farmall H. Both are in the 155xxx range. Every casting code on the tractor has a February 1944 pour date.

My compliments to Guy Fay on another good book -- "The Hundred Series". Hope you sell a million of them, Guy. I have one.

Mark



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Farmallkid

03-09-2004 12:12:56




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 Re: Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Mark -- Michigan, 03-08-2004 21:33:48  
Why xxx out your serial #? Not that big of a secret is it?



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Mark -- Michigan

03-10-2004 17:19:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Farmallkid, 03-09-2004 12:12:56  
Farmallkid - You are right, it isn't a secret. I just can't think of a good reason to put it on the internet.

Mark



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Farmallkid

03-11-2004 06:13:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Mark -- Michigan, 03-10-2004 17:19:41  
Ok. There is a farmall registry thing on this forum you could put it there, maybe somone has the one that was built infront or behind it. No i haven,t put mine on yet but i will. Have a good one!



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Guy Fay

03-08-2004 20:50:20




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 Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Brett, 03-08-2004 19:45:33  
At the front of a Farmall H parts book, it will tell you the break-before the break the numbers matched,a fter they didn't.



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Bill Smith

03-08-2004 20:05:12




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 Re: Engine # vs. Serial # in reply to Brett, 03-08-2004 19:45:33  
I believe the situation is, the earlier H's had a tendency to match and the later ones had a tendency to not match on serial #'s. I think my 43 numbers match. If I was you, I would just take my engine block serial number and use that same number if having a new serial number plate made. It's unlikely that you will find any archival info that would indicate your actual number using engine number as a reference. Just my 2 cents.

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