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Tough PTO coupler removal and Replacing PTOshaft

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Ramon from NC

12-14-2004 07:41:24




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Two separate PTO questions

1. Is it normal to need a hammer to put the PTO driven implements on and off the PTO Shaft? It takes me loads of time to hammer on and hammer off and I think perhaps my shaft is just not in good condition. Are there any tricks or tools to remove a tough PTO coupler (if that is what the component that hooks to the shaft is called)

2. How hard is it to replace the PTO shaft on a Farmall 100. Will it drain a lot of oil? Are there any other parts I need to replace

Thanks Ramon

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Andy Martin

12-14-2004 12:42:23




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 Re: Tough PTO coupler removal and Replacing PTOsha in reply to Ramon from NC, 12-14-2004 07:41:24  
Clean each piece off real good and slide the implement piece on slowly. When it gets in a bind, carefully look to see where it is binding and file the spot that is rubbing. Usually the piece on the tractor has damage. Many times it is just a high spot from the quick release shaft wollowing out it's groove and leaving a high spot. If it goes almost all the way on look at the ends of the grooves on the tractor. This problem is common and not hard to fix, it just takes a little patience and you have to study it a little.

It is a lot easier to fix than replace.

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Christopher Dunn

12-14-2004 12:18:44




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 Re: Tough PTO coupler removal and Replacing PTOsha in reply to Ramon from NC, 12-14-2004 07:41:24  
Ramon, I can relate. I am guessing you are somewhat new to tractor use, am I right? My Farmall A had the same problem when I first got it and I knew that couldn't be correct. Of course, I had a lot of other problems, so it took me a couple of fixes before I got to that. When I pulled the PTO shaft out of the unit, I did what I usually do to something I haven't played with before: I inspected it.

Listen to these guys, Ramon, they know what they're talking about. I suggest, if you don't have one already, to get a set of files, one for fast removal and one for fine cutting. Use them on flat spots, dinks, cuts and mashes. Check the coupling as well. I have the same old beat up shaft that came with my tractor and I can now hook up and disengage the PTO coupling by pulling it with my hands and sometimes wiggling it a bit. That is, of course, when the whole shaft doesn't come unscrewed from the gear wheel and comes off with the coupler. (see my post about PTO gear trouble.)

Christopher

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Ramon from NC

12-14-2004 11:21:55




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 Anyone know where to get a PTO Shaft? Help in reply to Ramon from NC, 12-14-2004 07:41:24  
So assuming my PTO shaft is bad, where can I get a new one cheap. I called my standard IH dealer and he quoted me a number that was too high to repeat. Help! Ramon



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captaink

12-14-2004 09:19:48




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 Re: Tough PTO coupler removal and Replacing PTOsha in reply to Ramon from NC, 12-14-2004 07:41:24  
The PTO coupler should slide on easily if there is a bit of oil lubrication on the shaft. It should not be so loose as to wobble, but it should be unnecessary to use any additional force other than a tug by had to get it on or off.

Do all PTO equipment go on that hard? If so, make sure the shaft in the tractor is not burred; clean any burrs, rust, or hard grease off with a file and or sandpaper to get a good polish and oil it up so you have a slick surface. If only one or two implements are hard to put on, check the coupler for burrs etc and clean up the same way. I have a B that has had the shaft replaced, and it is very snug and I need to keep it oiled up and clean or it gets hard to hook up a PTO. My 560 has been used a lot and always slips right on!

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Novel Idea Guy

12-14-2004 08:10:00




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 Re: Tough PTO coupler removal and Replacing PTOsha in reply to Ramon from NC, 12-14-2004 07:41:24  
You're kidding right? You're actually considering that it might be normal to have to hammer the coupler on and off the PTO shaft on the tractor??? Do you beat the gas cap on and off with a hammer too? Sheesh.

It should slide on and off with relative ease.

If you have to hammer them on and off, something is SERIOUSLY wrong with the coupler, the PTO shaft, or both. Flashing red lights and warning sirens should be going off in your head!

Take a good hard look at both the shaft and the coupler. If they're rusty and dry, clean them up and add a thin layer of grease to both. If you haven't wrecked anything by beating the bejeezus out of them, they'll slide together like BUTTAH!

You also should be able to tell if any of the splines are mangled. Clean them up with a file.

A slight twist in the shaft may not be noticeable, but the splines should be straight. If they aren't, someone put one heck of a load on the shaft and twisted it. You'll have to replace the shaft, and possibly some other internal parts.

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