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Mitchissippi

01-30-2005 15:22:10




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I've been using one 24F 12 volt battery out of a pickup to crank my 1066 for about two years now.

My cousins 1066 has one 12 volt (looks just like the 3EH) that he bought from John Deere. Says it works well.

I'm thinking of putting one long skinny 12 volt on mine. Should I compare cranking amps between brands and go with the highest (providing I can aford it)?

Mitch




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Gordo

01-31-2005 06:24:36




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Mitchissippi, 01-30-2005 15:22:10  
Never but never, replace just one battery when you have a 12 volt series system. Replace them both. The system is only as good as it's weakest battery. And the "one old battery" you leave in there will discharge your new battery. This is why they "wear out together".

Gordo



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Hugh MacKay

01-30-2005 19:22:18




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Mitchissippi, 01-30-2005 15:22:10  
Mitch: I ran 560D, 656 and 1066 all with two 6 volt in series, and 100 hp turbo Deere with two 12 volt hooked paralell. I cant say as I've ever seen any advantage one way or the other in cold weather starts. I do know my 6 volt batteries hooked in series had more longeviety than the 12 hooked paralell. However the Deere was used substancially more in winter, so the numbers of starts could have been much the same.

I'd have to say after close to 60,000 hours on those 4 engines, I really have no preference on the starting systems. I would never go to the bother of changing one from 6 to 12 volt batteries or vice versa. I do believe the Deere was a better engine to fire up in cold weather.

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Doug in OR

01-30-2005 20:31:00




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-30-2005 19:22:18  
There is an advantage to connecting two batteries in parallel. You get more than twice the cranking capacity. Here, read this link:

(I hope I did this right)



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Hugh MacKay

01-31-2005 04:49:51




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Doug in OR, 01-30-2005 20:31:00  
Doug: When I farmed, I lived on the east coast of Canada. We quite regularly saw temps through late Dec., on through Jan. and Feb. as low as -20F and yes twice but only twice in my lifetime -40F. I just forget the actual cranking amps on each system. The 1066 and John Deere 540A forestry skidder had batteries to factory specs. I do remember 1066 with two 6 volt in series was the higher in cold cranking amps. My 560D and 656D had 6 volt batteries almost twice the weight of factory originals and indeed would crank with Deere any cold morning. Usually those engine block heaters were pluged in, the Deere being the exception as it was often in the bush and no electricity.

Whether the Deere was pluged in or not, (using ether when not pluged in) it would fire up with much less cranking than the Farmalls. Of course the 560 and 656 had the added drain on batteries of glow plugs. They were around some years before the 1066 and Deere, thus I learned very early it takes big batteries to operate glow plugs. 60,000 hours of engine operation tells me, that in practice either system will work quite well. I would certainly never change one based on my experience. I think it has more to do with how heavy you buy when steping up to counter, 6 volt or 12.

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Allan in NE

01-31-2005 05:01:31




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-31-2005 04:49:51  
Mornin' Hugh,

I agree. I've often thought buying a battery is just like buying a pacemaker.

Why in the world someone would actually buy a cheap battery is beyond me. I always shop for the biggest and the best, not the cheapest.

Allan



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Doug in OR

01-30-2005 17:15:52




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Mitchissippi, 01-30-2005 15:22:10  
You can't quite compare a battery for a tractor the way you would for a car. Normally I would look for a car battery with the most CCA (cold cranking amps) that I could find. I guess that's the old raised in the midwest mentality that still lurks in me. Since this will be for a tractor, you need to look at other things too - especially vibration. Those "spiral wound" batteries seem (on paper anyway) to be the best suited for this type of use. You can recognize this battery because the cells are shaped like a cylinder - as opposed to square like most batteries have. If you live in a warmer part of the country, going for a battery with fewer CCA may actually give you a battery that will last longer. I noticed that the DieHard is sold that way - a "north" and a "south" version. The south version has fewer CCAs, but is built a bit more rugged.

I don't think reserve capacity means as much for tractor use. Your main consideration should be cranking ability and and how well the battery handles vibration. Yes, paralled batteries do work well. You effectively get half the internal resistance.

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jeffcat

01-30-2005 23:39:18




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Doug in OR, 01-30-2005 17:15:52  
Boy o boy do I agree with you! You are talking about an Optima battery. They are just GREAT! Check your local Pep Boys at $95.oo each. Interstate battery carries them too. I have the Interstate warehouse about six miles from my house and you can get "return" batterys. They warranty for six months and I get em for only $30.oo. At two below zero my van just spins over like it was 70 degrees. PLEASE check out one of these babys!!!!!
By the way; batterys in parallel do not always work. They must be sisters in that they must be the same make -amps-age-Etc.Etc. The charge rates will vary and one is always weak. Sooner or later it will sulfate.

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Mr. T

01-31-2005 22:58:19




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to jeffcat, 01-30-2005 23:39:18  
Hold up on those Optima type Batteries, the only good thing about em is you can turn em upsidedown without spilling anything. I bought 3 of them before I learned that you can't put a high charge on them...burns em up. they can't stand for more than 2 weeks without a charge. When you do have to charge a dead one, it takes 12 to 24 hours to charge it back fully. You could'nt give me one of them after what I have been through.

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Allan in NE

01-30-2005 16:38:25




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Mitchissippi, 01-30-2005 15:22:10  
Mitch,

I like to swap out those two 6 volt batteries and run two 12 volts wired in parallel. Really works slick.

Allan



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John Hobby

01-30-2005 15:52:19




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Mitchissippi, 01-30-2005 15:22:10  
This 1066 I bought has two skinny ones, one per side. They are 6 volt so it is a 12 volt system. I intend on keeping it that way, not changing, although I guess you could. Hey, as long as she start, whatever.



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RayP(MI)

01-30-2005 15:47:16




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 Re: Speaking of batteries, . . . . in reply to Mitchissippi, 01-30-2005 15:22:10  
What does manufacturer recommend for that application? You can probably find that data in owner's manual, or a call to a dealer's service dept. I prefer to go as large a battery as I can afford to cram in the battery box, but then I also require more out of batteries than origionally designed by manufacturer (2 way radios, etc.).



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