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Frozen Rear End - Revisited

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Robert Lorencz

12-01-2005 05:27:37




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Good Day eh?
Some time ago I posted that the transmission and rear end on my Super M had frozen up. I finally got to the big town the other day and bought a propane torch (note to self: NEVER go to Princess Auto on the first day of a sale!). Got home to find out that I had no way of connecting hose to a propane tank and no one around here had the right fittings! Aw, well the good Lord looks after "us", he turned the weather mild so I pulled the drain plug and got 3 gallons of water out(into a 2.5 gallon pail!) Then yesterday I got a bit more out (looks like I got it all) and got the old girl running and moving around like a spring chicken. How did that much water get in there? It came out so clear I thought I could drink it, and once it was out the oil wasn't brown or milky, just thick and black. I think I will change it all in the spring.

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Farmallkid From Ont

12-01-2005 07:51:56




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Robert Lorencz, 12-01-2005 05:27:37  
I always thought that the thick black oil was good? As long as it aint milky, i would leave it in and top it up with new. Is that the sm you got from dutton? how many did you get from him? My brother a couple friends and i are headed up there saturday.



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Shaun Arms

12-01-2005 10:09:45




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Farmallkid From Ont, 12-01-2005 07:51:56  
Thick black rearend grease is really not a good thing. When you put new grease in there it should be the same color as motor oil. You only get black grease from heat. It won't turn black unless it has had excessive heat.



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Robert Lorencz

12-01-2005 09:06:18




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Farmallkid From Ont, 12-01-2005 07:51:56  
Hi Mitch
Yep, this is the WFE one I got from Owen. I also got a NFE from Evan. Both '53 models.
What are you lads gonna get?



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Farmallkid From Ont,

12-01-2005 16:58:00




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Robert Lorencz, 12-01-2005 09:06:18  
Who know's, if i had it my way, the smta, but my bank account won't let me. They bin askin us to come over for awhile, to see the 560 D's, and some of the other toys. I think there is a new SM too.



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old

12-01-2005 07:40:06




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Robert Lorencz, 12-01-2005 05:27:37  
I agree with cowman, seen a lot of water in a lot of tractor tranny/rear ends and most got there from the shifters and condensation. Sort of funny how the rain can hit the shifter knob and then run right down the shifter and right down in to the tranny and rear end. I just change the rear end oil in a cub a couple weeks ago because of the same thing.



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F-Dean

12-01-2005 07:06:18




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Robert Lorencz, 12-01-2005 05:27:37  
It may not be frozen from the temperature. I have been working off-and-on restoring an M and the rear-end "Froze Up" on it. However, when I towed it to my shop area, it broke loose. I suggest you drain and fill the rear-end/transmission (13 gallons) and then try pulling it. First, turn the front wheels all the way in one direction and pull in that direction on the front hitch so that one wheel is stationary and one is turning. Then repeat for the other direction. It worked for me! Good Luck!!!

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Nebraska Cowman

12-01-2005 05:42:09




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Robert Lorencz, 12-01-2005 05:27:37  
Some guys think water gets in by following the cover bolts but I doubt it. I think most of it follows the gearshift lever. that with added condensation adds up over time.



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Andy Martin

12-01-2005 11:47:27




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-01-2005 05:42:09  
Doesn't the rain shield on the M shifter shed the water? I turned mine upside down and the cup held water just fine.

I vote for the cover bolts with an opening, like a broken lock washer.

Of all the cover bolts I have taken off, on every tractor it seems there are one or two which are rusted up and twist off making me think they had water under the head.



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Nat

12-01-2005 06:40:44




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 Re: Frozen Rear End - Revisited in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-01-2005 05:42:09  
I would expect that the oil hasn't been changed in that rear end in decades...



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