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Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine

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tractorman4840

12-20-2005 20:16:25

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Can it be done? I have heard people say that it can and some say it can't. Our combine has the chopper buty the knife bar can be pulled out and chopper put on slow speed. Any input would be appreciated.

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binderpower856

12-21-2005 19:24:53

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

We baled thousands and thousands of straw bales ehind our 2166 and got along great with it.

There are several steps that ned to be taken to get good quality straw out of a Axial Flow but it can be done.

First thing to do is take off the spreaders of course. Then you'll want to completely remove the stationary knives of the chopper. Next you will need to lower the chopper pan to the lowest position. Then move the chopper drive belt to the low speed position (small driver, big driven pulley). Now your chopper will be properly set for straw, and without spreaders, you will drop into a nice windrow.

We really never changed any rotor or concave settings for baling straw. Just set it to do the best job of seperating and if your chopper is set right, the straw should be in good shape.

The only time we had any trouble at all with straw quality was in a drought year where the straw was poor anyway. It ground it up pretty fine, but so did the conventional combines in the area, so ?????

Good luck with your baling....

Bill

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lightninboy

12-21-2005 12:31:30

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

If it's too fine to bale well, run the spreader while leaving the stubble as high as you can without missing grain. Then windrow the the stubble.

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Jim@concordfarms.

12-21-2005 07:50:00

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

I baled behind one of these for the first time this year at a neighbor's farm. I was sort of skeptical, but I had no choice since I had no wheat of my own this year. So far, I really like it. It's bruised more from the rotary action, so it absorbs liquids better. Jim.

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Brent in IA

12-21-2005 03:22:02

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

A 2166 is a rotary combine and hence will "condition" the straw a little more than a cylinder-style machine, even without going through a chopper. CaseIH rotary machines are designed for the crop mat to make 4-7 revolutions around the rotor where in a cylinder machine the mat only makes 1/2 a turn before being spit out. If you pull the chopper that just leaves the beater assembly which should help you keep some length to the straw, enough so the baler can pick it up easier. You can't pull the belt off the chopper/beater as it is an integral part of the threshing system and will really mess you up, the beater is what ejects the straw from the rotor area back to the rear of the combine. Make sure you turn off the spreader if you have one on it though, that will help immensely. To sum it up, yes you can do it, but I would run a few hundred feet and then evaluate your combine performance and the windrow before doing a whole field.

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old

12-20-2005 20:40:42

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

Can't say for sure but I know back when I was 18 we baled staw in the rice field in Mississippi. We even mower if a socond time with a ford MO/CO and made some good bales which the state bought for the road sides.

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John A.

12-20-2005 20:38:54

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

Tractorman4840, Back in the early 80s our JD 8820 had a strawchopper on it. We had major problems keeping it in "Time". So after a couple of yrs of headaches we pulled it off in mid-wheat harvest.
An 8820 w/ a 30 header cutting 85 bu irrigated wheat will leave a windrow behind it, 5 ft wide and almost 4 ft deep.
When we finished cutting wheat, a couple of neighbors baled up what they wanted. Then we burned the rest so we could float out that field.
I'll bet you can simply pull the drive V-belt and let the residue simply fall out of the end of the machine. There you are a ready made windrow. Just fire up you baler tractor and get after it.
Hope this helps.
John A.

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tractorman4840

12-20-2005 20:24:43

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

That is what one person told me it that the straw out of a red combine is chopped finer and is more desierable.

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randy hall

12-20-2005 20:22:32

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to tractorman4840, 12-20-2005 20:16:25

i use a john deere 7700 with the chopper set for corn when combining our wheat and we bale all the straw. the amish really like the 'chopped' straw.

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Dick Davis

12-21-2005 01:55:31

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to randy hall, 12-20-2005 20:22:32

I agree with the chopped straw theory. My few customers like the chopped stuff better. And if you are using an antique small square baler, it seems to work easier - not so much cutting for the knives. Again with a small square machine it probably won't eat the monster windrows - rake your own. My nickel Dick Davis

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IaGary

12-21-2005 04:14:47

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to Dick Davis, 12-21-2005 01:55:31

I've been baling oat and wheat straw behind a IH rotary for 24 years. What others have said here is true some of my straw customers like it better than conventional combines. I pull the knifes, slow down the drum speed and go. I also drop off the spreader discs to leave it in a windrow.

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jcarter

12-21-2005 20:21:46

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Re: Baling Wheat Straw behind 2166 Case IH Combine in reply to IaGary, 12-21-2005 04:14:47

Are you guys talking about round bales or small square?It's all round bales around here andmostly conventional combines for baling.I've got a 2188 and would like to get oat straw baled and off the field, but can't get anyone interested, cause they figure it is broke up to much.

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