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140 Lift and Cushion Spring

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Avery

04-24-2006 04:23:45

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I believe I am going to have to replace lift pump on 1962 140 I have. Am getting small amt. of overflow back in crankcase. Which is indicative if Im told correctly of seal starting to go bad. Also tractor does not want to pick up disk. Cusion spring on left side of tractor was taken off and has disappeared many years ago. Does this spring serve much of a function anyway. eems like Hugh McKay who I seen post before indicated that he could tell no difference whether cushion spring was on or off. Im referring to one which bolts onto left side of tractor not the one on end of lift. This probably same pump which came on tractor. From what I described does'nt this sound like problem? Don't think it needs kit as they are no visible signs of leaks around the lift box housing which houses internal controls and units fluid does not get low... Thanks

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Avery

04-24-2006 10:50:44

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Re: 140 Lift and Cushion Spring in reply to Avery, 04-24-2006 04:23:45

Yes, I agree. In my opinion these were some of the most versatile tractors made. Still use mine alot. Other 140 has cultivators on which I leave on fertilizer attachment etc. Since I have started back farming on minimal scale again am using other to do most of my work. Those hooks sound like good idea exactly how do you have that configured again I might try to rig something up like that to use when transporting. Especially with spray drum. Might try some salvage places and look the spring. Yes back when we were farming. Use to tend 40 acres tobacco about 60 of beans and corn and ran pure bred spotted poland china hog operation with 2 140's and a 3000 ford. Always did like running the 140. Could nor beat one for plowing and hilling tobacco. We always hilled ours and very rarely did any ever blow over. Other fellows who used roller cultivators usually had to set tobacco back up it came up bad cloud. Hilled 14 acres in one day one time with the one the cultivators on now. Hard work but good times. Took granddaddy's advice and went to school. Dirt stays in the blood. Thanks...

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Hugh Mackay

04-24-2006 14:36:49

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Re: 140 Lift and Cushion Spring in reply to Avery, 04-24-2006 10:50:44

Avery: I double checked on those chains, about 36". With hitch up all the way, put the chain around shaft portion of rear rockshaft, go down and around the round cross bar. I put one on each side and install them in a figure 8 pattern. Then just lower the hitch so chains take the weight.

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Avery

04-25-2006 04:11:29

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Re: 140 Lift and Cushion Spring in reply to Hugh Mackay, 04-24-2006 14:36:49

Thanks,

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Avery

04-24-2006 08:51:44

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Re: 140 Lift and Cushion Spring in reply to Avery, 04-24-2006 04:23:45

Hugh, I know you are right knowlegeable about these tractors. Am wondering how hydraulics could be damaged if spring is left off. I thought I could locate the thing but after almost 50 years it seems to have been misplaced. Plan to use tractor on field about six miles away plant some beans. If I can't locate spring which doubt can. Would you think it would not harm much to run without. Am going to replace pump they are costly and would like for new one to last 46 years if possible. Pump liable to outlive me. Any time on road I take it fairly slow. Work tractor hard when in use but do not abuse usually take my time. Or would you go ahead and use and try to find usable spring in salvage yard. I appreciate the advice...

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Hugh MacKay

04-24-2006 09:37:27

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Re: 140 Lift and Cushion Spring in reply to Avery, 04-24-2006 08:51:44

Avery: The spring definately does have some benefit, no question in my mind about that. The whole hitch system on the little tractors are quite light. I have two short chains with hooks on one end. If I'm going some distance especially if it's rough, and with a heavy implement, I put a chain on each side around rear rockshaft to cross bar of hitch. I then lower hitch so chains are taking all the weight. I've always done that.

That hydraulic touch control system was designed for lifting center and rear mount cultivators. The weak point came in using it for a hitch and drawbar. These little tractors are capable of far more load than most folks realize. I expect the engineers that designed them never dreamed farmers would acomplish as much work with a Super A, 100, 130 or 140 as lot of folks have.

My Farmall 130 pulled a 130 bushel manure spreader a couple of years, spread all the manure from 50 mature holsteins plus replacment heifers. Back in those days manufacturers called those a Farmall H or 300 spreader. The very first year I ever plowed a 100 acres, Farmall 130 did it with 2x12 fast hitch plow.

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Hugh MacKay

04-24-2006 07:14:03

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Re: 140 Lift and Cushion Spring in reply to Avery, 04-24-2006 04:23:45

Avery: For a number of years, I had one of 3 of these tractors without the spring. I couldn't see a whole lot of difference in the lift capacity. Maybe the one without the spring had better hydraulics, although I did change the spring from one tractor to another and saw little difference.

I think the long term effect of not having the spring would be detrimental to the hydraulics especially if you had some of the heavier implements. It sounds from your post as though the pump is failing.

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