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chad504

11-19-2007 11:34:41




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We have a lot of large trees in the side and rear of our yard. I try to keep them raked back into the woods, at the back of the rear yard. the problem is that the volume is just too much to move with a blower/vac. Has anyone ever built a 3 point leaf rake? I have been toying with an attachment for my rear blade, to help. I have tried rubber belting clamped on, hanging about 2 inches below the cutting bar, with limited success. it is great for moving piles, but not raking. I would love to come up with something to let me use the 130 to rake with, the layout of the yards would make it easy.

The bi issue is that I want to keep the cost to a minimum.

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Nat 2

11-20-2007 06:18:23




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Janicholson, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
Tried the chop-em-up-with-the-Woods-deck method, but they were still so thick they killed the grass... I ended up skimming up and hauling several hundred pounds of "manure" to the mulch pile in the spring. What a greasy, slippery, nasty mess. Took all summer for the burn spots to go away.
So this year I used a riding mower to blow them into two windrows, raked them onto a tarp, and dumped them on the mulch pile.

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Hugh MacKay

11-20-2007 11:51:57




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Nat 2, 11-20-2007 06:18:23  
Nat: Success lies in the nitrogen application to break the leaves down.



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John M

11-19-2007 15:15:38




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
I do like Hugh, just leave them alone and let mother nature clean them up.



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Hugh MacKay

11-19-2007 15:08:39




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
Chad: I'm 65, bet I've never raked 10 bushels of leaves lifetime. Yes, I have leaves, tons of them, a foot deep in places. Far too valuable organic material to be raking up. I'd like to find a device to spread them evenly across my grass, I don't even want any of them to blow away. I just head into them with my Woods belly mower, bingo I've got instant mulch, spread a bit of ammonium nitrate, two weeks the leaves are completely broken down into fertility. Same with grass clippings, I turn em back into fertility.

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Jimmy King

11-19-2007 21:10:37




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-19-2007 15:08:39  
I am with you Hugh I have a Cub Cadet O turn and Sat. I went over the yard where I needed to next week I won't even see the chopped up leaves.



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D.C.

11-20-2007 07:52:30




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Jimmy King, 11-19-2007 21:10:37  
Jimmy: I also have a club cadet 0 Turn. Not much luck without a lot of rounds chopping them up. Did you find a mulcher attachment, etc. Any advice appreciated.



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Jimmy King

11-20-2007 08:17:41




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to D.C., 11-20-2007 07:52:30  
No I just ran the deck at it's highest, the leaves were dry it might have been a different store if they had been wet. I had a 42 inch Huskavarna and eary in the summer some one thought they needed it worse than I. I had used it several times, but it had a roller across the front of the deck. It would just push the in front if they were very thick.



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Hugh MacKay

11-20-2007 03:23:34




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Jimmy King, 11-19-2007 21:10:37  
Jim: I agree, however there are a lot of mowers out there that don't do this well. Maybe it's the operator, but I've noticed a few folks this fall, trying to do the same as we do, and coming up with a huge windrow. I'm thinking it's the difference between side discharge and rear discharge.

The guy I bought my Woods mower from, went for a new Kubota O turn. He tells me it wont mulch like the Woods did. It could be his speed, I don't think I've ever seen him under 25 mph with that O turn. Sometimes it just takes a bit more time to do quality yard work.

Snow plowing is much the same around here except we see a link to country of origin or ethnic background. We have a large population of Portuguese, these guys manicure snow plowing, not so much as a flake out of place. Most former Europeans do what is necessary to keep moving. One exception though, the Dutch just stir the snow, and work on the principle it melts faster the more you stir. I'll pay for this.

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pics

11-19-2007 18:08:59




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-19-2007 15:08:39  
I'm with you Hugh. I used to let two landscapers dump their grass and leaves in an area at the back of my property. In exchange, they mowed my lawn and clipped the 400' hedge twice a year. This went on for 20 years. I could probably spread three inches of beautiful compost over 5 acres at this time.



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Hugh MacKay

11-19-2007 18:59:23




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to pics, 11-19-2007 18:08:59  
You have 20 years of organic matter free that all those folks paid out money to get rid of. Your a lucky man.

I can readily see what drives the leaf and clipping raking business. Most of the mowers on the market don't mulch very well. Couple that with the fact most folks scalp their grass, leaving nothing to hold the mulch. Scalping the grass all summer dries out the top soil, gives weeds an excellent chance to establish. Then, rather than fertilize to make healthy grass, they water it to compensate for dried out topsoil. A well fertilized lawn will put down a deep root system that will utilize ground water in the soil, even through most dry spells. 4" high grass will hold moisture, shade out weeds and hold the mulch. An application of nitrogen fertilizer will break down the mulch, and a Woods mower will spread the mulch rather than windrow. Continous watering only encourages your grass root system to stay within 2" of the surface, because no one ever applies a 1" rainfall, most not even close.

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Wardner

11-19-2007 18:11:46




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to pics, 11-19-2007 18:08:59  
"Pics" is me. I can't get rid of that autofill and sometimes I forget to correct it.



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Fawteen

11-19-2007 14:13:23




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
third party image

Here's my solution...



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jack-iowa

11-19-2007 13:45:29




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
I have to mow the rea anyway so I just mow the leaves into my bagger or let the goats at them.



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bil b va

11-19-2007 12:35:37




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  

i bought a tow behind leaf sweeper for my riding mower . like it real well . has a dump hopper that catches the leaves . i drive around the yard pick up load of leaves drive to edge of yard pull dump rope while still moving and go after another load . will also pick up acorns . i used it last summer to rake dried grass clipping to mulch my garden .its a agri-fab 42" lawnsweeper from lowes .about $225 . after fighting the leaves and paying kids to rake i am happy .

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nspec

11-19-2007 12:21:22




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
I"ve seen a 3pt hay rake made for a compact tractor. 4 pinwheels, 8 foot - $600 brand new. Just search for "compact tractor hay rake".



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steve from mo - dangit!

11-19-2007 12:19:04




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
When you have that many leaves, you can use a hay rake. Look around for an old dump rake and give it a try. Either one would work.

If you want to get fancy, you can look for an estate rake; it"s like a pinwheel rake only with smaller wheels.



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Red Dave

11-19-2007 12:05:26




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to chad504, 11-19-2007 11:34:41  
I think they are called a "York rake". I know that they come in a 3 point mount. Try google or other search engine.



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Dave H (MI)

11-19-2007 13:23:58




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Red Dave, 11-19-2007 12:05:26  
York rake isn't it. You also must have a LOT of leaves to make a conventional hay rake worth the trouble...I have tried. A sweeper would probably work better or one of the small estate rakes (pricey) that they sell now.



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bil b va

11-19-2007 12:17:02




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 Re: OT: Leaf removal in reply to Red Dave, 11-19-2007 12:05:26  

i have a land scape (york rake) and they are useless for leaves on a lawn .



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