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Steering connection problem con't, with pic

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Mike CA

11-23-2007 22:56:13




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The problem persists, and I can't figure out why. I put the lower steering shaft in, screwed it in as tight as it would go, checked to make sure the bearing was seated as far as it could go, but the end of the shaft still comes up short. I've taken it out and retried 4 times. I've loosened the guide you see to the right of where the U-joint touches, but that didn't help. I marked where the center of the key's indent on the shaft and the end of the shaft IS in green, and SHOULD BE in blue.

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated, nothing has worked so far.
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Mike Farmer

11-24-2007 12:37:33




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Did you actually need to let the rear shaft forward into the coupling MTF



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Mike CA

11-24-2007 10:02:08




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Well, I don't know how the previous owner got it together wrong like that, but he did! Anyway, I fixed it as per the parts manual, adjusted the steering column length, and BINGO, it went together easy!

Thanks guys!



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Steven f/AZ

11-24-2007 09:34:38




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
"They" need a good lesson on how to pay attention when taking something apart! LOL

It looks to me as though the original bearing was worn enough to allow the shaft to come back farther and make the connection... new bearing is not so sloppy and thus the shaft doesn't come back as far.

Have fun turning it around! third party image

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Mike CA

11-24-2007 09:19:27




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Son of a monkey!!! They put it back together wrong???
Let me go outside and tear this thing apart and try to fix it. Be right back.



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Andy Martin

11-24-2007 09:29:34




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-24-2007 09:19:27  
You need to really get on "them".



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Gauger

11-24-2007 09:08:40




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Mike, do yourself a favor and pick up a parts book or if you don't want to part with the $$$ you can see all of the same pictures at the caseih.com website (search for parts). The pictures from the manuals are generally very accurate as to what goes where.



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williamf

11-24-2007 08:48:43




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Here"s the drawing.
As Janicholson says, the bearing (part number 12) needs to be on the opposite side of the support.
Good luck, Wm



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Mike Farmer

11-24-2007 05:41:14




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Hi in mmy previous E when I said it wont make a lot of difference, I should have said it probably won't make enough difference MTF



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Janicholson

11-24-2007 05:51:19




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike Farmer, 11-24-2007 05:41:14  
Mike. With respect, the casting to be repositioned is repositioned to the other side of the gauge support. This gives literally inches of additional shaft. JimN



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Mike Farmer

11-24-2007 05:22:53




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
All the points made are very valid.But! I think even when you turn that casting the right way up it won't make a lot of difference. I would try loosening the collars at the top of the steering columb under the throttle and then just slide the steering wheel end forward enough to make the connection that you require. The problem is that simple. Enjoy your day. Here its raining. MTF



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Janicholson

11-24-2007 05:48:38




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike Farmer, 11-24-2007 05:22:53  
The others are correct Though close, it would take pulling the support forward that amount to allow enough shaft to be exposed. Even if it was this way when you got it, it was incorrect. Look at the position of the grease access hole in the hood! JimN



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glennster

11-24-2007 04:57:58




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
mike, heres a pic of a super m i got layin round in the back garage. if its the same as the h, like the other guys said, it should go in front so it faces the radiator.
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by the way....did the ups guy bring yer grille patch yet?????

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John in Ne.

11-24-2007 07:39:06




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to glennster, 11-24-2007 04:57:58  
Glennster,Is this picture of an H or a M? My M has that same bracket between the gauges,I thought it was home made and I wasn't going to put it back on when I put the tractor back together.I didn't like the look of an extra hole in the hood.Maybe I should re-consider and put it back the way it was.Is it needed for anything other than support for the hood? Thanks,John.



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glennster

11-24-2007 10:57:47




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to John in Ne., 11-24-2007 07:39:06  
john, this is a super m, but the m is the same. the bracket is the rear support for the hood, the stud goes up thru the hood, and there is a washer and wing nut that holds the hood down. most of the time the wing nut gets tossed so they can get the hood on and off quicker. i put a rubber washer under the hood, and then one on top when the hood goes back on. keeps the vibration down and doesnt rub the paint thru. use a mudflap from a truck and a holesaw. great source for washers!!!!

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John in Ne.

11-24-2007 14:45:58




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to glennster, 11-24-2007 10:57:47  
Thanks,I guess I have one more part to clean up and paint.



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Steven f/AZ

11-24-2007 03:45:13




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Steering shaft cast iron support is wrong - needs to be in front of the gauges like already said - grease zerk should face up so you can grease it through the hole in the hood.

Pictures truly are worth 1000 words!



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RLT

11-24-2007 03:32:39




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
Mike, Put it in like Owen said and it will work. Ralph



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STEWARTINPA

11-24-2007 02:15:36




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
MIKE I THINK OWEN IS RIGHT I'LL CHECK MINE LATTER TODAY TO MAKE SURE STEWART



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Owen Aaland

11-24-2007 00:36:07




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 Re: Steering connection problem con't, with pic in reply to Mike CA, 11-23-2007 22:56:13  
I believe the steering shaft support goes in front of the plate that hold the gauges. That way the grease zerk faces up so that it can be greased through the hole in the hood.



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