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1fortyfanatic

03-27-2008 17:15:16

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Hey guys, here is the current state of "preservation" on my 140.

I went up to level Dad's pea gravel driveway. The look on his face told me everything I needed to know that day. I stopped and told him that I was sore and could use a break, would he take over?
Well, after crawling up the backside, the old farmboy in him came out, and he was lost in his own world for over an hour. This is another reason I chose a Farmall, and why I do what i do with it.

Dave

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1fortyfanatic

03-28-2008 12:20:32

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to Greg-N-CA, 03-27-2008 17:15:16

Guys, thanks for the input. Hugh, I get you now, and no, I don't think that the linkage rod you're talking about is original. It is old, the steel is pitted and consistant with the age of the unit, but I've seen pics of 140's and not one of them had the bow in it that mine has. However, the bow is perfectly uniform from link to link, as if designed that way. I could be wrong, but it is too uniform IMO to be an accidental bend. May have been a specialty piece.

mkirsch, yeah, the LEFT linkage arm (see, I get it now) could be reinforced, but that would detract from the original look of the unit IMO. So, like I said, I have adjusted it so that I can only get maybe 1 or 2 inchs of down pressure in my applications. Can't bend too much that way, and a good jump up and down on it straightens it right out lol :lol: !

I help out around town here when we get a big snow, and the business parking lots I do for friends are all concrete, some in not such good shape. I don't think my pals would appreciate me going in there with ripper teeth on their concrete, so just a little down pressure seems to work well enough, and if that don't get it, well, I leave it to Mr. Sunshine and old man Time.

I'll try to come up with some sort of idea to straighten that right side linkage rod without hurting myself. Sorry Hugh, I'm slow sometimes, but I do eventually have light bulb moments :shock: .

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Hugh MacKay

03-28-2008 03:40:08

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to 1fortyfanatic, 03-27-2008 17:15:16

Dave: In at your photos again, I can see you are misreading my original post, and I should have perhaps made myself clearer. When I say DEPTH control linkage, I'm refering to the one from front of hitch to the right center rockshaft. When I say lift linkage, I'm refering to linkage on left from rear rockshaft to center rochahaft, that lifts the hitch. Yes, I agree it also can control depth, and yes down pressure will bend the lift linkage.

The way this hitch is designed to work, for example if you had a gauge wheel or wheels on behind of your rear blade it will grade a plane smooth even if your wheels go over a rock, ridge, etc., by controlling front of hitch hydraulically, and letting the hitch lift float. Plowing for example, depth is controlled by the right lever controlling front of the hitch, one just puts lift control on float and drop it all the way. I have a two row corn planter, depth is controlled by rear gauge wheels and hydraulic control of front of hitch, again all the left control does is lift the implement. You get yourself a gauge wheel for the back of that blade, and you'll grade driveways as smooth as the Interstate.

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mkirsch

03-28-2008 05:11:04

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-28-2008 03:40:08

Oh yeah, BOTH linkages are bent!

The lift linkage on the left side is going to need to be reinforced, somehow. It will just keep bending, and each time it will take less and less force to bend it. Eventually it will work harden to the point where it just snaps in the middle.

I've seen angle steel half-heartedly welded on, and sometimes even old iron water pipe! Naw, you need something other than scrap. You need a piece of DOM tubing, like they use to build roll cages. I'm thinking 3/16" to 1/4" wall, but maybe that's overkill? There should be a size that slips snugly over the bar, and you won't even need to weld if it's the right length.

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Hugh MacKay

03-28-2008 06:52:33

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to mkirsch, 03-28-2008 05:11:04

mkirsch: He may be better off not using down pressure. I've seen folks beef that left side lift link to the point where they broke the front rockshaft arm. Trying to find one of those with provission for spring assist can get expensive.

I never use down pressure, have a fast hitch 17 tooth S tine cultivator. If there is something my blade wont cut, I just rip it with the cultivator.

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1fortyfanatic

03-27-2008 19:13:19

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to minn meyer, 03-27-2008 17:15:16

Thanks Ron.

I get it. I think this thread was prompted by Paul's recent loss. My Dad has some serious health issues, and I'm trying to spend as much time with him as I can. The folks just moved to town this year, and I'm only 2 blocks from them. I am very lucky, and intend to make the most of it. I'd like to see folks post their family pics here every now and then, especially with their tractors, to keep it relevant. My condolences, and he's with you more than you know.

Dave

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Idaho Ron

03-27-2008 18:34:11

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to 1fortyfanatic, 03-27-2008 17:15:16

That was a great looking tractor to start with. I would LOVE to show my Dad my tractor and let him use it. He has been gone for 3 years now. I am jelous that you still have your dad. Little things like what you did for your dad are a wonderful thing. Thanks for the thread. Ron

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1fortyfanatic

03-27-2008 18:06:44

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to CNKS, 03-27-2008 17:15:16

Yeah Hugh, I'm going to help him find a Cub when he gets his tax refund, just so's I'll feel safe, heheh.
Hey now, you see the before picture, that linkage bar is straight compared to when I got it! Yeah, I've straightened it about 3 times, then when I use some down pressure to clear ice off, or to dig down and inch, it bows back ever so slightly. Thanks to you, I backed off the depth adjustment on that linkage so that I only get about an inch or two of down pressure (on the ground), and the linkage can't bow too much.
I find that the blade and u-bar make an excellent anchor and fulcrum for bouncing my 200 pounds on that linkage bar, to straighten it out every now and then. In that pic, Dad was getting the hang of it and had full down on her. And I ran out of red paint for the bottom of the air cleaner, so silver went on. I actually kind of like it, heheh.

Dave

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Hugh MacKay

03-28-2008 03:10:01

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to 1fortyfanatic, 03-27-2008 18:06:44

Dave: Are you sure the depth control linkage is factory original. Some of these have gotten lost over the years and replaced with mild steel. The originals are forged steel and I doubt if 140 has the ability to bend it unless you tied a chain to the middle of the link with other end of chain around a tree, and started backing with loose chain and hit it hard. I don't recommend that as I expect the rockshaft arm from touch control will break first.

I've had 4 one point fast hitches in the past 50 years, and personally don't think it's possible to bend that linkage on the tractor doing it's intended mission. I can see bending the lift linkage on the left by applying too much down pressure.

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Hugh MacKay

03-27-2008 17:47:06

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Re: Dad and the 140! Pic inside. in reply to 1fortyfanatic, 03-27-2008 17:15:16

Dave: Now, there is an old guy interested in what he's doing. He'll probably stay there so long, his joints and muscles will get stiff, thus he won't be able to get off, and you'll not get the tractor back.

Tractor is looking up, but why don't you straighten the depth control linkage. That 1-1/8" bar from hitch up to right center rockshaft is supposed to be straight.

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