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Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info

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Charlie

06-20-2004 19:08:42




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I have a double open-end wrench (11/16 x 1-1/16) that has {HARRY FERGUSON INC} and {TO-17014} in raised letters on one side and the 3 - 6 inch measuring marks on the reverse side. Can anyone give me more information on this wrench? Does it have any significant value? Was this wrench made before or after the Ferguson/Ford alliance? I understand this is actually a wrench to adjust a plow. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Charlie

06-28-2004 19:33:51




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 Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info in reply to Charlie, 06-20-2004 19:08:42  
Thanks to Bob T., Hal, and all others for the information you supplied about my Harry Ferguson wrench. I really appreciate it! Have a great day and drive and old tractor for enjoyment. --Charlie



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Bob T.

06-21-2004 06:46:36




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 Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info in reply to Charlie, 06-20-2004 19:08:42  
The last one I saw on E-Bay that was marked Harry Ferguson Inc. Sold for $102.50 and it had a fairly large piece broken out of it. This had the name cast in as opposed to stamped on the end, the stamped ones that I have seen simply said FERGUSON on one end and TO-17014 on the other and seem to go for about $25.00 I have also seen one with metric markings. The scale was used for checking plow depth not a gas dipstick!

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Hal

06-22-2004 18:05:46




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 Re: Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info in reply to Bob T., 06-21-2004 06:46:36  
What models of tractors came with these wrenches? I seem to remember a wrench like this and 2 smaller open-end wrenches that were supplied with a TO-35 and had a gold colored anodized finish.



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Paul in Ms

06-21-2004 04:29:25




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 Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info in reply to Charlie, 06-20-2004 19:08:42  
Ferguson had most of the nuts and bolts made in 11/16 and 1 1/16 to keep it simple. It is the same style wrench used with the 9n, 2n, and 8n. Which used his Ferguson system. On ebay these will sell on average for $25. The wrench was used to check the gas level and to measure the plows .



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Mike M.

06-21-2004 18:35:51




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 Re: Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info in reply to Paul in Ms, 06-21-2004 04:29:25  
I have one of these in the tool box of my TO30. It was designed to fit most of the nuts and bolts of the Ford Ferguson, Fergusons, and Ferguson implements. I've been collecting these for a few years. I have seen some sell for $75.00-$80.00 although the majority average about $25.00. The European wrenches were marked with cm's on one side and inches on the other.
I use my wrench for checking my gas level.Safty? Think about this, if you take your tractor to a filling station to fill it the first thing you do is open the hood and grab the gas cap. (Metal thing sticking in gas tank).Hopfully if your body has built up any static electric charge it will be discharged when you touch any part of the tractor before you touch the gas cap.(It is the gas fumes that burn not the liquid). Now here's the good part. That gas nozzle that hangs on the pump is made out of aluminum, a very good electrical conductor. Guess what. I'm going to jam it into the gas tank and not think twice about it. Now convince me that using my plow wrench to measure my gas level is dangerous.

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Not to check gas!!!!!!

06-21-2004 05:20:08




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 Re: Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench info in reply to Paul in Ms, 06-21-2004 04:29:25  
It wasn't to check the gas level! That's a very dangerous misconception. Sticking anything metal into the gas tank could lead to a spark and, well you get the picture. Besides, due to the shape of the tank, the inch increments on the wrench wouldn't tell you anything as the inches don't correlate to gallons. It's not consistent from the bottom to the top due to the shape.



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Jim W

06-21-2004 07:45:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench inf in reply to Not to check gas!!!!!!, 06-21-2004 05:20:08  
I'm not as convinced. True the shape of the tank is not "squared off" but it's fairly close. And it holds 8 gallons (Imperial, yes, but some people do use that system) and is 8 inches deep. I have heard this before, about getting a spark - can you get a spark when you're in a liquid?
Jim
PS Personally I would rather use a wooden stick anyway since it floats.



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Yes...

06-21-2004 09:17:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Harry Ferguson INC TO-17014 Wrench in reply to Jim W, 06-21-2004 07:45:26  
Yes you can get a spark in a liquid, probably not in this situation, but it is possible. You could have small end of the wrench in the gas and still spark the big end against something.

Anyway, I think it was Harold Brock, who was involved in the design and manufacturing of the Ford-Ferguson 9N who said that it was definately never intended for putting in the gas tank, it was just to measure the plow depth. It was the only wrench that they had to manufacture soley for the tractor. Here's some more info>Link

I>Link agree about using a wooden stick. I have a paint stirrer that has incremental marks on my 9N (http://www.ytmag.com//nboard/messages/131090.html), but really never use it. If the gas looks low I just fill it up.

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