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Harry Ferguson TO 20

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mglenn

11-15-2006 16:55:33




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Dad passed away last year, the farm has a TO 20 on it still, the oil pan plug was jerryrigged for years and finally fell out . As I understand the story, The tractor was driven up a hill belching smoke and sputtering mightily, made it to the barn, parked and has remained there since.
---My brother and I have decided we will rebuild the engine if its possible--although We are a little short on mechanical skills We have more or less all the tools needed to do the job. On the Yesterdays Tractor Co. website I found the Engine Rebuild DV and the Comprehensive Engine Overhaul Kit-(includes sleeves). We have a couple family friends who could coach Us when necessary. ---however, i wonder if running that engine out of oil has over heated the block and cracked it or if the block may be warped.
---Not sure which way to go on this-We can also just buy a new engine for $2000, ready to go. we would like to get somthing done for snow plowing the drive and park lot this year.any advice would be appreciated.
thanks, mike G

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Jerry/MT

11-15-2006 19:48:26




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 Re: Harry Ferguson TO 20 in reply to mglenn, 11-15-2006 16:55:33  
I would hold off buying anything until you tear it down and find out what it needs. Really, I'd fix the oil pan plug, fill it with oil and try to start it. You can't do much more damage. If you can get it started and running, listen for mains pounding or rods clicking and check the oil pressure. If you hear a lot of main bearing and/or rod bearing noise and/or the oil pressure is really low when the engine is warmed up, then I would pull the crank and check it for damage in both the main bearing journals and the rod journals. (I think you might be able to check the mains one at a time without dropping the crank, but I never had my TO-30 apart at that level.) These are the more critical areas for the case of oil starvation. Hope this helps you.

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HowieNJ

11-15-2006 18:49:17




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 Re: Harry Ferguson TO 20 in reply to mglenn, 11-15-2006 16:55:33  
i have a to30 that i got off a friend it had no water in it and over heated and seized then sat in a field for years. i got it for a parts tractor. a year later i put a battery in it just because i was bored and it turned over to my surprize. no smoke and runs strong.my point is you might have a good tractor with littel money inzested. but to spend 2000.00 on a motor seems a bit high. good luck on your fathers tracor.

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mglenn

11-16-2006 15:53:22




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 Re: Harry Ferguson TO 20 in reply to HowieNJ, 11-15-2006 18:49:17  
thanks for the advice--those are words of wisdom--im gonna fix the oil pan first-going to get the tune upDVD (You have to remember we are ignorant when it comes to mechanical)try to start it first. If that dont work, then tear it down ad start spending money.
-i will post what i find out--will probably order the TuneUp DVD right away, and start looking how to replace the oil pan plug. matter of fact, going to look right here on this site for a new oilpan first-then check on the machine shops.
--thanks for the perspective and advice.

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phil(va)

11-15-2006 18:46:41




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 Re: Harry Ferguson TO 20 in reply to mglenn, 11-15-2006 16:55:33  
I"d say pull it down and see what you have got. Blocks can be repaired.



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mike mcmurray

11-15-2006 17:29:17




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 Re: Harry Ferguson TO 20 in reply to mglenn, 11-15-2006 16:55:33  
Hey Mglenn....I am going thru the same situation right now with restoring a TO 20....You are in the right place to ask questions regarding the rebuild. i am most likely going to purchase the comprehensive rebuild kit as well..... Good luck and I will follow your progress, as you will most likley be close to where I am in the process. Mike



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Mark Burgmann

11-18-2006 00:27:20




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 Re: Harry Ferguson TO 20 in reply to mike mcmurray, 11-15-2006 17:29:17  
Hi
Before starting remove the engine oil filter and cut it open and have a look at whats inside, if any metal or bearing material strip it down and fix it. This is common practice for engine mechanics and can save heaps of $$$$
Best Regards
Mark



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