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Rebuilt or new carb?

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greenbank

10-22-2007 18:28:27




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Any preference when ordering a carb whether to get new or rebuilt? I'm wary about offshore made stuff, quality has been pretty lackluster on the pieces I've bought for this machine.

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel on my current carb, with zero clue what actually has happened to it.

I put a new coil on today, and it made no difference.




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Bill - SC

10-23-2007 17:17:19




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
I too rebuilt a carb. a while back. Used a Tisco kit several parts did not fit. The needle for the seat was rubber tipped. It either leaked or the needle hung in the seat and fuel would not flow. The old needle was all metal. I put the old needle and seat back in with a new seat washer, reset the float and no more fuel flow problems. Try the old needle and seat, you have nothing to loose.



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greenbank

10-23-2007 16:58:58




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
The problem was idiotosis.

I was so damn sure that I had timed this correctly. I was 180 degrees out. Fired on the button when I flipped the wires around.

Have rarely felt this stupid.

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Irv (Ia)

10-24-2007 04:13:17




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-23-2007 16:58:58  
We'we all got a collective smile on our faces to hear you got it going. And don't be too hard on yourself, I think we've all done something like that before. That looks like a dandy tractor. How about a picture of it with the hood on. Is that a 56'or 57?
Irv



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gshadel

10-24-2007 11:05:09




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to Irv (Ia), 10-24-2007 04:13:17  
ditto!



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gshadel

10-23-2007 15:02:12




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
greenbank, I saw your posts below also, sounds like you have a VERY frustrating problem. You say your carb does not leak until you crank the engine, then it leaks? The other guys are right, your MS carb is pretty simple, I wouldn't give up on it just yet, the price of a new carb is quite high. I see you replaced the coil also. Make sure you have a nice fat blue spark, not a skinny orange/yellow spark. Your engine may not run with a weak spark. Most "carb" problems are really weak ignition problems
Here's a couple ideas for you to consider for your leaky carb.....
Just for giggles, drop your carb & crank your engine with your hand over the intake port, just to make sure you don't have some kind of weird valve problem that is belching air back towards the carb (when the likely things don't work, gotta start looking at the unlikely things).
The your carb is very sensitive to fuel level in the fuel bowl, you can jamb a piece of clear tubing into the drain plug hole & hold the tubing up to the side of the carb, like a water level, to see where your fuel bowl level is sitting, it should be just below the bowl gasket.
You can also try draining your carb bowl with the shut-off closed, plug the drain, open the shut-off and start cranking the engine at the same time to see if it still floods/leaks. That my provide some insight.
I am not clear on where exactly your carb is leaking from... maybe I missed that. Perhaps you cleaned the carb soooo gooood that you opened-up leakage thru a previous small crack in the casting that was varnished over. Stranger things have happened. Scrutinize your carb body inside & out with a bright light and a mag. glass .

George

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Irv (Ia)

10-23-2007 07:59:19




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
As Jerry said, a Marvel Shiebler carburetor is about as simple as it gets. I'd almost bet my next paycheck that unless you've lost something out of it, that your carb is not the problem, especially if it ran o.k. before. Do you have anyone next to you that plays with old tractors? They used those carbs on a multitude of different brands and they are basically the same. Maybe a pair of fresh eyes to look at your Fergie might help. I've read your other posts and can see that you're about at wits end.

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Bruce(OR)

10-23-2007 00:14:04




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
If you buy a new one, just before you dump it in the trash, stuff it in a box and send it my way. In another month or two when i get my engine together I may need it and might be able to get it fixed. My '20 didn't run for too long before I tore it into pieces and the carb may be a night mare worse than yours.
Have a good one!
Bruce



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Jerry/MT

10-22-2007 21:39:16




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
if you have a Marvel-Schebler carb, they are about as simple of a carb as you can get and parts are easy to get. What seems to be the problem and what carb do you have and what model engine? Are you sure the problem is the carb? What"s your spark look like?



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TO?

10-22-2007 20:59:35




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 Re: Rebuilt or new carb? in reply to greenbank, 10-22-2007 18:28:27  
So you have a model#----- -FERGUSON with a ----- - make and model#----- carburetor,TO&?



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