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Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement?

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John H TO20

10-23-2007 14:32:16




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I am thinking of replacing my fuel sediment bowl assembly and wonder if anyone has upgraded to an in-line automotive type filter with a separate shut off. Would that work or will the lack of pressure from a pump cause you not to get enough flow?




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LTAYLOR

10-24-2007 10:48:31




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to John H TO20, 10-23-2007 14:32:16  
SOME FLOW THROUGH FILTERS WILL WORK. YOU NEED TO CHECK THE FLOW.



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Jerry/MT

10-23-2007 18:48:12




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to John H TO20, 10-23-2007 14:32:16  
I put a fuel filter in the line from the sediment bowl to the carb, underneath the battery. I used a Fram G2 and I have also found some lawnmower filters from Walmart which I will try whenI replace the Fram. The thing to watch out for is to stay away from exhaust manifold with a plastic filter body. That"s why mine is under the battery. I cut the fuel line and put a slight flair on the cut ends so that they seal on the rubber tubes that attch to the filter.
My filter has been in place for about three years and I have had no problems attributable to it. My machine is a "54 TO-30 and it is a working machine on my ranch

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John H TO20

10-24-2007 06:52:31




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-23-2007 18:48:12  
Thanks for the reply. Why did you keep the sediment bowl? I was thinking of getting fittings for the tank and carb with nipple ends that would accept a rubber fuel line and eliminate the sediment bowl. But, the carb connection is probably too close to the manifold for that. Eliminating the bowl and its gasket seems like it would be an improvement but may not be worth the trouble if I need to keep a copper line. I like the ball valve shut off idea.

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Jerry/MT

10-24-2007 14:03:17




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to John H TO20, 10-24-2007 06:52:31  
The sediment bowl and it"s filter is kind of a course filter and the Fram or the Walmart are fine filters so I just think the fine filter will last longer downstream of the sediment bowl. The other reason is that I like having the reserve fuel that the OEM tank valve provides. It"s saved my bacon a few times.
You can do as you suggest but as you point out, make sure you have steel fuel line near the exhaust manifold.

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John H TO20

10-24-2007 15:15:26




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-24-2007 14:03:17  
Thanks for clarifying. The dual filter probably is a good idea.



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Terry G

10-23-2007 15:20:05




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to John H TO20, 10-23-2007 14:32:16  
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I added a small fuel filter to the inside of my fuel bowl and have not had any problems with fuel flow. The quarter turn ball valve makes it quick to turn the fuel on or off, although I lost the reserve feature of the original setup. I carry a spare filter an old plastic 35mm film container and keep it in the tool box under the hood. Only takes a minute or two to change it out if it stops up.

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gshadel

10-24-2007 11:04:02




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to Terry G, 10-23-2007 15:20:05  
Terry, I like your filter insert in your gas bowl. HOW DID YOU DO THAT? Inquiring minds want to know!
thanks
George



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Terry G

10-25-2007 06:23:10




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to gshadel, 10-24-2007 11:04:02  
George,
I drilled a hole up through the center of the shutoff assembly then cut off a small section of steel brake line and knurled one end of it. Then I drove the brake line into the hole and peened around it with a small punch to seat it in the body of the shutoff. I slipped a small o-ring up over the brake line for a seal. The fuel filter was just the right length to seal against the 0-ring with just a little "crush" (as you can see in the picture)when the glass bowl is tightened up. In answer to John H question of why to keep the sediment bowl, Even if the extra filter catches all the sediment the bowl will catch any water that may be in the tank. The water will go to the bottom of the bowl and the fuel will float on top of the water.

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ric1

10-23-2007 15:46:50




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to Terry G, 10-23-2007 15:20:05  
what are those two hoses just to the right of the bowl



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Terry G

10-23-2007 20:28:56




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 Re: Fuel Sediment Bowl Replacement? in reply to ric1, 10-23-2007 15:46:50  
The hoses go to a spin on oil filter. I modified my oil pump and oil filter system several years ago and added the spin on filter. I did some machining on the oil pump and brought the lines out the side of the block to the filter. The old filter inlet was blocked off. Now when the oil pump picks the oil up from the pan it goes straight to the filter then back to the pump and through the engine. All of the oil that is pumped goes to the filter although I don"t know if the filter itself has a bypass for some of the oil. This is on a 1951 T0-20 and I have been using it this way for maybe 18 years.

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