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Buckeye al

09-07-2004 10:48:20




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Guy around here insists his 1939 101 Super Senior (that's what the decals say) is a 2 plow tractor. Seems pretty big but his PTO is so beaten up nothing will fit on it. (Read dyno in there)

Just wondering if you guys might have some information you'd be willing to share. What's is 'sposed to weigh? What was it's rated HP and How many plows did Massey Harris say it should pull?




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MMark

09-07-2004 16:53:46




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Buckeye al, 09-07-2004 10:48:20  
I know what you mean, I pull against one all summer in plow class pulls, good running tractor. We had one dyno pull this year, it made 44 horsepower. Just under the 10% limit. Its hard to beat one on a good track. They can be beat. I know, I've done it.



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Alberta Mike

09-07-2004 13:46:41




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Buckeye al, 09-07-2004 10:48:20  
Actually the SUPER and the SENIOR series were two different tractors. SUPERS used Chrysler power while SENIORS used Continental engines. I think you are probably referring to the Super series.



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buckeye al

09-08-2004 13:47:16




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Alberta Mike, 09-07-2004 13:46:41  
His decals on the hood say 101 Super Senior. Outside of that I dont know much about it. He's here every year, says he's antique (1939) and insists it's a 2 plow tractor. 2 plow worked out pretty well the first couple years he was here 'cause it was worn out & ran very poorly, missing and spewing lots of blue smoke. One year it even quit & he had to be pulled off the track. Others of course didn't mind that! After that incident however, he overhauled it & that is not the case anymore! Last three years he took first place. Now others are grumbling he's in the wrong class but we can't hook the dyno to it & nobody around here knows much about them. It's the only one most of us have ever seen.

Just as a matter of interest, Sunday he beat out 2 MM Z's, three F20's, an H, a WC and a Case CC. At 208', 6" he was just 2' 3" ahead of the Case CC. One of the Z's stopped at 199' 10" for third place. Very nice running and looking tractor!

Thanks to everyone that replied. Will look again for more replies later. Thanks again.

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Alberta Mike

09-08-2004 15:58:31




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to buckeye al, 09-08-2004 13:47:16  
Hmmm, never heard of a Super Senior. There were first plain 101's (1939 I think) which became the 101 Supers (Chrysler engines with the full-louvered side panels) and then 101 and 102 Seniors. THe chassis were the same on all of those and most everything interchanges other than the engines (which could be swapped if you wanted). I wonder if he bought decals or had some made up? As I said, the Seniors used Continental flatheads. Does his have Chrysler or Continental power? Nice talking to you.

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Buckeye al

09-13-2004 13:54:59




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Alberta Mike, 09-08-2004 15:58:31  
Don't know which it has but will find out. Might take a couple months though.

I just re-built the carb & re-worked the mag for his '36 JD B. He wants me to put them on & tune it for him but he's still taking it apart. Will take a close look at the 101 then.

He said he had the decals made by some guy his wife knew from when she ran a business in a nearby town. They may well be a bit customized! This tractor has full louvered side shields completely enclosing the engine like an old Oliver 77. It's a big red box with a few strips of chrome trim on it, some vent slots and a straight pipe out the top. Tractor really looks and runs great.

Thanks.

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Alberta Mike

09-13-2004 14:17:59




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Buckeye al, 09-13-2004 13:54:59  
No doubt you have the 101 or 101 Super with the Chrysler engine. Probably one of the most collectable larger Masseys made (along with a good example of any of the triple numbered series in the mid-50's). The tinwork alone is rare. I'd grab it if the price was right and the tin was decent.



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Bruce C

09-07-2004 11:48:18




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Buckeye al, 09-07-2004 10:48:20  
Row-Crop weight is 3,650 lbs.Standard weight is 3,435 lbs.If it has the origanal 201 engine it was rated at 31.5 drawbar horsepower and 40 belt horsepower.Massey rated it at a two to three plow drawbar power under normal plowing conditions.Not sure what they considered normal conditions.In 1940 the engine was increased to a 217.7 cubic in engine.It was retested in 1941 and was rated at 34.6 drawbar and 47 belt horsepower.

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Alberta Mike

09-07-2004 13:48:17




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 Re: 101 Senior in reply to Bruce C, 09-07-2004 11:48:18  
Got your cheque today (if this is the Bruce C from central Alberta). Thanks and keep in touch.

MIKE



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