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Bari

03-28-2000 03:00:02




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Okay, so I am a new 1950 8N owner. I about have it tuned up and ready to go to work. I am planning on doing some brush hogging on some pretty rocky, uneven, thorny terrain. What is a Zane Thang and do I need one so I don't kill myself?

You guys are the greatest and I have been learning a lot from you. thanks!




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Dell (WA)

03-28-2000 11:56:49




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 Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Bari, 03-28-2000 03:00:02  
Bari..... .As the self-appointed safety preacher (grin), it is my duty and privalage to say you did the right thing by asking for advice about brush hoggin'.

The most important thing is to be certain that you have an "Over-Running Coupler" on your 8N's PTO shaft. The ORC prevents all that humongus rotory inertia from the swinging hog blade from back-driving thru the PTO into the tractor's transmission and causing the tractor to keep on goin' when you clutch to slow down to make a corner, miss a fence post, edge of the stream bank, irrigation canal, corner of the barn, wifes new car.....(don't ask).

There are 2 kinds of ORC's, push-button mounted, or roll-pin mounted, I use a roll pin type. Then there is the other decision to make, what size to get? The original 1 1/8 dia 8N PTO shaft and the now standard 1 3/8 PTO. You can get them sized to mix and match your brush-hogs PTO drive coupler. Some 8N's have been re-PTO'ed to the new 1 3/8 spec. So you'll have to know what sizes you have.

And then finally, you will probably have to shorten your brush-hogs PTO shafts (inner & outer) you will probably have to sacrafice a couple of hacksaw blades to cut them hard suckers. PTO shafts are made to be shortened. You'll have to figure it out yourself how much to cut off.

And finally, most brush-hog users also use stabalizing bars from under the tractor axle fender mounts to the brush-hog lower pins. This keeps the hog from swaying into your expensive tires.

A lot of brush-hog users (specially those with weak hydraulics) use "limiter chains" that attach to the tractor's top link under the seat and then are set to limit the hogs drop-down or the mowing height you want. With chains, they collasp when you raise the mower to go over an obstical and then re-lower to your pre-determined mowing height.

These are different than the "Zane Thang" which does marvellous things for 9N & 2N's with out "Position" Control" like the 8N has (the little handle under the seat should be up for position control and horizontal for draft/plowing control).

One last safety message: Don't EVER pull anything from that handy dandy top-link (just under the seat) as you will pull the tractor over on top of you quicker that jack-snott with disasterous results. Your wife and children will appreciate your dilagence in observing this safety message.

Keep children and dogs away. Rocks can fly a long and hard way. Go and Brush-hog in safety, ..... Dell, the self-appointed Safety Preacher.

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Nice post, very well said!...EricG.NH

03-29-2000 04:41:15




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 Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Dell (WA), 03-28-2000 11:56:49  
Save it for the next time and save some typing!
:-)
Eric



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Nolan

03-28-2000 12:29:47




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 Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Dell (WA), 03-28-2000 11:56:49  
Dale, I love ya and I respect ya, but I think I've got to take exception with ya on this phrase, "The most important thing is to be certain that you have an "Over-Running Coupler" on your 8N's PTO shaft."

When bush hogging, the most important thing resides between the ears of the operator. It must be trained, and it must be used. Without a thinking and educated operater, disaster and heart ache are sure to follow.

I will agreee that an ORC is the most important piece of tractor equipment to buy for a bush hog.

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Nolan

03-28-2000 08:24:16




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 Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Bari, 03-28-2000 03:00:02  
I stuck a link here describing my first experiences bush hogging. I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but I thing I wrote it pretty well.

I would also strongly advise you go back through the archives about bush hogging. It's not simple or safe.

Since you describe uneven and rocky terrain, I'd also suggest you repost your question with a title like "bushhogging on rocky uneven terrain" and read the responses.

I don't know what you mean by uneven and rocky because we may regard these words differently. My take on uneven and rocky would have me not even attempting to take a hog onto it. I have no desire to belly up a hog onto a rock pile and find out how hard it can wing them at me.

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Charlie in TX

03-28-2000 05:50:47




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 Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Bari, 03-28-2000 03:00:02  
I would also get a ROPS from New Holland with seat belt.

A couple of pages back a question was posted about 12 ply tires. Someone suggested ways to thorn proof your tires.

I don't have many thorns here but picked up one on Sunday. $9 for new tube and life is good again.

Be safe. Things can get out of control quickly.



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Mike S

03-28-2000 04:20:10




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 Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Bari, 03-28-2000 03:00:02  
While you don't need a Zane thing, you do need an overriding coupler for your PTO if you don't already have one. Do not operate a bushhog with out one. Check the archives and you will get lots of stories about how important they are to have.



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Tyler(MD)

03-28-2000 03:39:21




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 Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Bari, 03-28-2000 03:00:02  
No you don't need the Zane Thang for 8N's.

The Zane Thang is for non-position controlled hydraulics on the 9N/2N. Below is his site.



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Dennis N Tx.

03-28-2000 10:44:25




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 Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Tyler(MD), 03-28-2000 03:39:21  
I exchanged e-mails with ZANE about the THANG. I thought the THANG would only be needed for 9/2N's. He said it would also work on 8N's that had worn or improperly adjusted hydraulics.

I wish I could find the original e-mail to copy...must be in my AOL e-mail that I can't get into from work. :^(

Dennis
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Dennis N Tx....@Home

03-28-2000 18:43:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Dennis N Tx., 03-28-2000 10:44:25  
After checking my e-mail at home I find I only have one e-mail??? Is this the norm for AOL to dump all of your old e-mail?

Dennis
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Jim(UT)

03-28-2000 17:10:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Dennis N Tx., 03-28-2000 10:44:25  
For improperly adjusted hydraulics Zane now offers the Zane Jig. Or is that Jig Thang? I can't keep track.



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ZANE

03-28-2000 17:49:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to Jim(UT), 03-28-2000 17:10:38  
For adjusting the lift on the 8N it's the Jig THANG and booklet or pamphlet.
The jig is really needed to properly adjust the lift on the 8N. Other wise it is just a hit or miss and trial and error endevor. Some time it works and sometimes it don't.
If you want to get it right the first time then you need the jig. I didn't invent the jig. I just made a reasonable facemiley of the one that I used in the Ford dealership where I worked for 7 years in the late 50s and 60s.The control valve is so far from the linkage adjustment points that just a little off on one of the adjustments makes a lot of off way down on the end of the control rod.With the jig you are adjusting to the jig and not guessing with the length of a spring etc.

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Craig Starret

12-14-2000 20:12:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to ZANE, 03-28-2000 17:49:22  
I would loke to know how to get a Zane Thang for my 9n.



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C. Friend

04-01-2000 20:16:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zane Thangs in reply to ZANE, 03-28-2000 17:49:22  
OK, so where do I get a jig THANG ?



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