Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum
:

Advice on replacing axle seals

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
BH FLA.

08-11-2001 14:07:29




Report to Moderator

Slowly but surely I'm getting things fixed on my 1950 8N. Thanks to Y'all in advance and the highly recommended manuals. The previous owner claims to have replaced the right side axle seal only to have it start leaking again. In an automobile this is usely do to the axle having a groove in it where the seal rides. The owner claimed the axle looked ok. Are there any tricks or tips to installing these seals, part no. 8n 4251-B, and are these the only seals that keep the oil from leaking from the axle? Your time and advice is priceless! Thanks again.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
ZANE

08-11-2001 18:41:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Advice on replacing axle seals in reply to BH FLA., 08-11-2001 14:07:29  
The 50 8N does not have inner axle seals inside the trumpet housing as the 51 and 52 do have. That is one reason why they are more prone to leak. The spline on the end of the axle must be tight and have no loose motion in it. The 8N is famous for the alxe spline becoming worn to the point where the nut on the end of the axle will no longer have enough threads to tighten the tapered splines because part of the taper will become worn off from being operated with the nut loose. When this happens the only cure is to replace both the axle and the hub. A new nut is wise too.

The groove you mentioned is of minor concern on these outer seals that the early 8N have which turn on the hub inner surface. The main concern will be the spline being tight after the seal is replaced.

I have had good luck on these early models using silicone glue to act as an improvised inner seal inside the trumpet houshing.

If the hub is not extremely tight so that you have to have a puller to get it off I think you can replace the seal yourself. If the hub is tight that is a good sign you might get it to stop leaking.The problem with the 48 8N is that it does not have an inner seal like the 51 and 52 do. If the hub is loose on the axle and it can't be tightened because of the spline being worn too much to allow any more tightening then you will not be able to stop the leak the conventional way unless you replace the axle and hub. I hope that is not the case.

If the axle is worn too much to allow it to be tightened then you might consider my fix for the leak and leave the hub loose a few more years. To fix the leak my unconventional way you pull the axle away from the axle housing about 6 or 8 inches and wrap the axle for about 6 inches from the outer end of the axle that is exposed with teflon tape.Wipe all the oil from the housing and then take a caulking tube full of silicone glue and pump it into the void between the axle and the housing. Keep the hub as close to the housing as you can till you get the silicone pumped in.Use the whole tube and then replace the axle into the housing and replace the bolts etc. Let the silicone cure overnight and then you can go about using the tractor. Be sure that the oil in the rearend etc is not over full as this will contribute to the axle leaking.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
BH FLA.

08-12-2001 06:48:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Advice on replacing axle seals in reply to ZANE, 08-11-2001 18:41:28  
Zane, Thanks for all your help and advice. everyone on this board has really made my efforts to fix problems on my 8n alot easier. I know it is time consuming to answer questions, but I really, really appreciate it! Hope someday I can be as helpful!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy