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Rob Johnson

03-14-2003 09:17:52




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I pulled the air tube off, and about a cup of fuel spilled out on the ground. OK! now I've narrowed it down to the carb. does this mean that the float bowl is sticking down? Carbs are a mystery to me.




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Dave OH

03-14-2003 20:42:00




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 Re: 8n wont start revisited in reply to Rob Johnson, 03-14-2003 09:17:52  
As mentioned earlier. The float valve is not fully seating. Never leave the tractor sit for days with the fuel valve open. Many good running tractors will do what yours did if left like that.
If you were the one with dry plugs, It is a manifold air leak that stops the fuel from getting to the plugs or a plugged air intake.
Get an FO-4 manual or take the carb in to have someone replace the float. Call for a price.
Dave OH

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Mountainman

03-14-2003 11:13:31




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 Re: 8n wont start revisited in reply to Rob Johnson, 03-14-2003 09:17:52  
If this is a "new" engine, you might want to try a little oil in each cylinder to temporarily seal the rings to get more vaccuum and hence more air/fuel to the cylinders.

hth

Mountainman...CA



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David - OR

03-14-2003 10:25:28




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 Re: 8n wont start revisited in reply to Rob Johnson, 03-14-2003 09:17:52  
There is supposed to be an air horn drain to stop this from happening. Yours must have been plugged with dirt, or perhaps deliberately closed off in the past.

Aside from bg's recommendation, which seems like the most likely explanation, there are a couple of other possibilities.

If gasoline is not drip-drip-dripping from the carb, the float is probably OK. Try the no-air-tube connected brief test I mentioned earlier.

It is possible that your tank had a big slug of water in it. You might consider draining off some gas into a clear gas container and letting it sit. Look for a meniscus between a water and gasoline layer. Also consider opening the fuel bowl drain to let any residual water out of the carb.

One more diagnostic aid is a little starting fluid sprayed into the air horn. If the problem is fuel related, the engine should run more energetically than it does now. If you still get only a grudging couple of pops, it is more likely spark or timing issues.

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bg

03-14-2003 09:30:55




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 Re: 8n wont start revisited in reply to Rob Johnson, 03-14-2003 09:17:52  
It means that too much gas is there. Why?
Either there is too much gas being drawn in, or more likely, the gas is not igniting. Have you checked for spark at each cylinder? Have you checked the timing? The updraft carburetor is pretty simple: the float keeps a constant amount of gas in the float bowl, so that the air moving through the carb can siphon it out. The more air that moves(higher rpm)the more gas is used. If the needle valve is stuck open by a bad float, gas will continually pour in and drain out the bottom of the carb.

If the carb main jet setting is too rich, you may get some excess fuel, but I'd put my money on the ignition system until I get further information.

If the engine is turning over, but the ignition system is not firing, or firing at the wrong time, or the spark is really weak, the gas is still sucked into the engine and the intake manifold.

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John,PA

03-14-2003 10:51:56




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 Re: Re: 8n wont start revisited in reply to bg, 03-14-2003 09:30:55  
Hi, bg. Glad to know that you are still "kikken".



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