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Will a rear scoop dig a ditch?

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rob-8N

03-29-2003 19:57:48




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If I use the rear scoop to draw, how deep will it dig? Will it bog down the tractor? I need to dig a small drainage ditch in clayey soil. The mounting brackets are about 14" off the ground and my hydrolic arms extend to about 10" off the ground. Will this only go down 4" deep or will the motion of the tractor cause the scoop to plunge?




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pat

03-30-2003 07:44:29




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 Re: Will a rear scoop dig a ditch? in reply to rob-8N, 03-29-2003 19:57:48  
I will put my 2 cents in as well, I dont have a scoop so cant comment on that, but depending on how big and how deep you need to dig your ditch, I would suggest the 1 bottom plow, or 2 like dell stated, I had to recently dig a drainage ditch to divert the water off the hill so it would not soak the yard\barn\driveway, you get the picture, I ran a 1 bottom plow across the bottom of the hill, towards the creek I have to the side of my property and it worked slick,, the depth was plenty deep, I could have went deeper if I wanted to, I think I could have gone like 8" plus, but depending on what yo are doing with rthe ditch I would try this, I also tried the method with the back blade because at first that is what I had attached, since it was used for plowing snow,, I had no luck with that method at all, it scratched the surface but I was not impressed, maybe the ground was too froze, but the plow worked great for me, good luck, pat

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Larry 8N75381

03-29-2003 23:37:34




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 Re: Will a rear scoop dig a ditch? in reply to rob-8N, 03-29-2003 19:57:48  
Rob,

A rear blade does a great job of digging a ditch, IF the blade can be tilted down on one side and angled forward on that side. It will act like a plow that way. The nice thing about the rear blade is that you have to raise it up to clear the ground when it is tilted and angled. Then you have a greater depth you can dig before the 3PH "bottoms out".

The rear blade works even better when you can offset it to the side you are digging the ditch on. Then you are not driving in the ditch if you are making several passes to form and finish the ditch.

I have a rear scoop that my 8N will fill full to over flowing with not much effort in my NASTY Virginis clay. I think mine will dig in about 6" but it is usually full before I get that deep. I also would add that pulling the scoop works FAR better than pushing with an N. Remember they were made for plowing which is always done driving forward.

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Larry

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dave 50 8n

03-29-2003 21:32:32




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 Re: Will a rear scoop dig a ditch? in reply to rob-8N, 03-29-2003 19:57:48  
I use a middle buster to break up the soil and then the scoop to clean it up. Works ok.



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Dell (WA)

03-29-2003 21:16:33




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 Re: Will a rear scoop dig a ditch? in reply to rob-8N, 03-29-2003 19:57:48  
Rob..... ....the N-Tractor is NOT the tool for every job, and neather is the rear scoop. Scoops are NOT diggers and do not have power down. To dig anything, you have to have some method of reaching INTO the soil.

You could break the ground with eather a 1-bottom plow, rolling the soil and leaving a furrow, which farmers have been using for ages. Or a sharply angled 2-bottom plow so that you are only using the point of the leading plow. Or a middle breaker or potato plow. Then if'n that doesn't satisfy you, clean out the bottom of your furrow with your scoop..... ...Dell

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souNdguy

03-29-2003 20:59:15




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 Re: Will a rear scoop dig a ditch? in reply to rob-8N, 03-29-2003 19:57:48  
As you noticed.. there is a physical limitation as to how far your n's lower lift arms will go. That combined with the height of the mounting pins on the scoop will determine your max depth. Adjusting the toplink will vary the angle of cut.

These scoops were a bit better at backing into a pile, but will dig some.

Soundguy



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