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Is all that rear wheel weight necessary?

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'52 8N (MD)

06-01-2003 04:59:32




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Both of my rear wheels are about 2/3 full of calcium chloride and this is the way it's been since the tractor was new in '52. When one rim was replaced in '94 I just did the same thing. I do have some fairly hilly terrain to mow but the 951B NH mower deck adds some weight to the back for traction in the summer. The winter might be different since I use a 5' rear blade for snow removal.

Can I get rid of some (how much) of the liquid to improve mileage and power? Thanks, wc

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steve19438

06-01-2003 06:43:34




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 Re: Is all that rear wheel weight necessary? in reply to '52 8N (MD), 06-01-2003 04:59:32  
i have a 48 8N that has TURF tires on the rear with chains and no extra weight. i plow my garden with a 2x14 in. plow with no problem and plow snow too with no problem. i leave the chains on year round.



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Rodney

06-01-2003 06:55:28




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 Re: Re: Is all that rear wheel weight necessary? in reply to steve19438, 06-01-2003 06:43:34  
I doubt that he wants to run chains while finish mowing with the 951B finish mower. He lives where its hilly so he needs weight for snowplowing.



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'52 8N (MD)

06-01-2003 08:07:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Is all that rear wheel weight necessar in reply to Rodney, 06-01-2003 06:55:28  
I am thinking about putting some turf tires on the 8N to do parts of my lawn as well but it's soooo expensive to do that. With a little less weight in the rears I might be able to get away with it on my lawn. I'm just using the 951B rotary on the 4 acres of field and woods right now. I made the mistake of getting hi-rib fronts when I replaced the tires 5 years ago and boy do they cut up the field when turning. I run the front tires at 20 lbs instead of the usual 24 lbs. to compensate but you can't cut when the ground is wet or else.

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Rob

06-01-2003 11:27:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Is all that rear wheel weight nece in reply to '52 8N (MD), 06-01-2003 08:07:21  
You know I can identify with all you say. Am there doing that. I have the same questions. I do something to throw in though. As to pushing snow, well I think the chains make all the difference. All the weight in the world won't keep you from slipping on ice and ice-frozen mud.
Now I don't get many snows over 6" and the occasional 10" or 12". Fast is if I can wait a day that snow generally gets blown south and it's Oklahoma's problem. And I don't have to push huge piles around either, just get it in the ditch or at least pushed to the side.
Next excuse I get, I'll probably get rid of the weight in my tires.

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'52 8N (MD)

06-01-2003 18:53:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is all that rear wheel weight in reply to Rob, 06-01-2003 11:27:07  
I got stuck plowing a half mile of county road for my neighbors during the President's Day storm with the 8N and a 5' blade. The county never even got to us, a state truck showed up +5 days later. As it turns out, we got taken out to dinner twice and got a thank you note too. I didn't have too much trouble with spin this storm but when the left brake locked up in my next door neighbors icy drive, the tractor came around and the blade smacked his pickup about 500 worth.

Part of the inertia came from these 310 pound behemoths and I am wondering, can I just let out some of the calcium chloride out through the air valve? It would probably take all day but if these chains you are talking about can fill in the traction gap in the winter my next question would be how much to let out.

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Rob

06-02-2003 00:18:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is all that rear wheel wei in reply to '52 8N (MD), 06-01-2003 18:53:59  
That's a tough break on that truck.
The rule for weight is to count the rear tire revolutions over 100' then hook up the impliment, do the work for 100' counting the revolutions and figure the difference as tire slippage. 7' is ok, some is desirable even. But that's for impiments drawn in normal working conditions.
For mud and snow it may be that you gain more letting some air out then adding weight.
The chains make a real difference. If you spin with chains it's only for a bit until the chains dig down into something solid to bite into. They tear into ice and frozen ground. Weighted tires won't do that, they just slip.

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MikeC

06-01-2003 05:14:07




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 Re: Is all that rear wheel weight necessary? in reply to '52 8N (MD), 06-01-2003 04:59:32  
I don't think that you will notice any real difference in power or mileage. I use unloaded turf tires/wheels in the summer and loaded bar tires/wheels in the winter and there is no real difference in power. If you plow snow in the winter you will be really sorry you dropped the weight.

Especially on snowy covered hilly terrain weight in the tires makes a huge difference when you are plowing. I've used both and I wouldn't be without the weight.

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