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BK8nSoCal

01-18-2001 21:30:45




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anybody got an opionion as to the best way to get a little more poop out of a 48' 8-n.90 PSI seems a little low.[front mount dist.] thanks,




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Fast Ed Ohio

01-20-2001 16:06:34




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
Limited horsepower and rpms will tend to keep an engine running much longer ,it will not destroy itself like a high performance engine . Just my opinion.



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Fred OH

01-20-2001 07:59:28




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
Ever have your hat blow off in fourth gear? I wonder what fourth would be like at 5000 rpm? Ol Don wouldn't have any front end parts left if they ran at r's like that. L8R----Fred OH



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I find it ...

01-19-2001 07:45:00




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
strange that people who would never try to drive 16penny nails with a tack hammer seem to want a twenty some HP tractor to do the same as a hundred HP tractor.

When I bought my farm (100+ acres) I did not even think about an 8N for use there. Instead I got a Ford 3000. Ten+ more HP and 1000# more weight. Big enough for all that I needed to do. Only occassionly would a bigger one be nice. BUT, after all the work I have done with the 3000, it is clear that an 8N just would have NOT been enough tractor.

My 8N is a family heirloom. A nice companion to the 3000. I have used BOTH several times to get a job done. One with one implement and another implement on the other. For example, post hole digger on the 3000 and rear bucket on the 8N to carry posts, etc.

Yea, I know cost is often the major factor. But if you can't afford a Caddy, don't fool yourself that your VW beatle can be made into one. :-)

Regards, and please don't take offense, I meant none.
Larry 8N75381

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Denton

01-19-2001 06:17:41




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
You know, I am impressed with my N and how well it pulls. But honestly I was wondering if an exhaust/intake manifold with smooth flowing curves wouldn't flow better. This is probably me showing my ignorance due to the fact that the small carb has only so much flow possiblities as it is. I suppose turbulence in the manifold is a non issue at the engine speeds the N is rated for. Also seems like a K&N filter would breathe easier. Would look pretty dorky though. I only know enough about engines as to be really interested, but fooling around with them would probably do more damage than good. :-)

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Brad

01-19-2001 07:55:24




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 Re: Re: never enough power in reply to Denton, 01-19-2001 06:17:41  
They only turn 2200 rpm, you don't need a bigger carb. You also want the small passages for high mixture velocity, this is a torque motor, not a hot rod. I imagine the reason they didn't worry about smooth, flowing passages was packaging and expense. It'd take a lot more room and money for individual ports and sweeping manifolds.



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Nolan

01-19-2001 03:40:26




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
One of the things I've noticed about N's is that they run out of traction well before they run out of power. Even mine, with it's terribly worn out engine; I slip long before I stall.

So, would you care to elaborate on what's happening that you think you need more power for?



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PAUL8N

01-19-2001 03:38:26




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE THE TRANNY OVER TO AN AUTOMATIC BECAUSE GRABBING FOUR NON-SYNC. GEARS WITHIN A 1000 OR SO RPM MIGHT BE A LITTLE MUCH TO HANDLE. JUST MY .01 CENTS WORTH



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Laughing Boy

01-18-2001 23:03:36




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 Re: never enough power in reply to BK8nSoCal, 01-18-2001 21:30:45  
Well, there's always Horsepower in a bottle (nitrous oxide)....

Nitromethane.....(but measure your TBO in minutes)

Turbocharging.....

Supercharging.....(wouldn't it be neat to see someone put a Paxton on an N??? :-)

Funk Conversion (6 or 8 cyl)

Oversize pistons...

or..... . get a Bigger tractor.

There really isn't much you can do. Obviously, you could modify the engine to turn more RPM's, but then everything's going too fast. The things I stated above are about all I can think of. The easiest thing would be to install the turbocharger...that really shouldn't be too hard... and would make a very interesting conversation piece to boot.

Before the flames start flying, I realize that all these things are or could be extremely detrimental to the reliability and useability of the tractor....but that's the price you pay for squeezing more power out of any engine, to whatever degree...

Plus, I thought it would be fun to think about a Turbo N..... :-)

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-19-2001 01:46:45




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 Re: Re: never enough power in reply to Laughing Boy, 01-18-2001 23:03:36  
>> thought it would be fun to think about a Turbo N..... :-) <<

It sure would, but how long do you think it would take that sucker to spool up after you "floored" the accelerator rod from 1200 to 2200 rpm????

Probably could get by with a single intercooler though.

LOL..... ..... .Ed
normally aspirated '52 8N475798



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Brad

01-19-2001 08:04:49




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 Re: Re: Re: never enough power in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-19-2001 01:46:45  
Not to mention the healthy cough and flat spot from no accelerator pump in the carb. When I was still mechanicin' I tried to specialize in computerized fuel injection ( I ended up fixing dummy's mistakes on everything else half the time). I've thought about designing a injection system that will fit on an N. DIS ignition would be neat, also.



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ED

01-19-2001 06:12:39




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 Re: Re: Re: never enough power in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-19-2001 01:46:45  
Couldn't He Just Use Some Miracle Gel?



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It was such a simple question, but no inteligent answers

01-20-2001 18:45:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: never enough power in reply to ED, 01-19-2001 06:12:39  
good grief, I asked a simple question and all I got back was more questions and dumb statments.



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Brad

01-20-2001 21:19:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: never enough power in reply to It was such a simple question, but no inteligent answers, 01-20-2001 18:45:52  
O.K., 90 psi is minimum recommended compression. That means it's on the low side. Rebuild the freakin' motor!



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