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OT -Ol' Farm truck actin' up again

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Rob N VA

10-31-2003 19:21:29




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This is a quick question that I am sure anyone can answer, but I am carburetor challenged at times. After I run my ol' dodge (76 d100 with a 318 motor and a 3 speed manual tranny) for a bit, and turn it off it has a tendancy to "diesel", but it really dosen't sound like a "diesel" sound, more like a half diesel, half loud hiss, but I think the problem is the same. Is my problem the carburetor? Or is is something else? And how do I fix it? I might also add that when I first start it up in the morning it smokes for a minute or two, which I am assuming is indicitive of a bad valve guide situation, in that oil is leaking down into the cylinders, and burning off at start up.
Thanks for any help, and Happy Halloween!!!---Rob

P.S. I know this is way off the subject, so I'll just say this: My 8N is running great. I had a few goofy problems when I first got it, but now it is running great! The great thing about these old tractors is that once you get them set up correctly, and providing you do some regular maintance, they are hard core machines that rarely break down. Thanks Henry for a great machine, and thank all of you for helping me keep her a great machine.(the old farm truck is a different story)---Rob

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Rob N VA

11-01-2003 14:13:33




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 Re: OT -Ol' Farm truck actin' up again in reply to Rob N VA, 10-31-2003 19:21:29  
Thanks again guys!!! As always, you all seemed to be right on track!!--ROB



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Bob

11-01-2003 13:28:20




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 Re: OT -Ol' Farm truck actin' up again in reply to Rob N VA, 10-31-2003 19:21:29  
Check your ignition timing. Late timing agravates this. Are your mechanical advance and vaccum advance working? Is your idle speed set to specs.?

Does your carburetor have an electric idle stop solenoid? When used, these are for one of two purposes. On a truck with air conditioning, they may be set up to increase the engine idle speed only when the A/C is on. If they are set up as an anti-dieseling solenoid, the idle speed screw on the carburetor is set up just enough do the throttle plates do not stick in the closed position. The adjustment for engine idle speed is made with the adjustment screw on the solenoid. The solenoid maintains this position as long as the key is on, then allows the throttle plates to snap to the nearly tight shut position the instant the key is turned off. This cuts off the fuel from the idle circuit and prevents dieseling. Does your truck have such a solenoid?

If your throttle shaft is badly worn, one, or both of the throttle plates may be worn out of round, affecting the function of the idle circuit in the carburetor. If the throttle bores in the carb. are worn, it is possible to bore them out and install bushings to tighten them up.

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Dell (WA)

11-01-2003 00:25:10




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 Re: OT -Ol' Farm truck actin' up again in reply to Rob N VA, 10-31-2003 19:21:29  
Rob..... ....sounds like you've got a carbon "HOT-SPOT" sumwharrs. Could an exhaust valve or could be piston tops. Of course, yer engine is really telling you its gettin' tyred and ready for overhaul. Generally, leaky valvestem seals don't cause hotspots, just a smoggy start-up. Usstabee in olden days we'd wynder out in low gear on some quiet backroads sumwharr to "blow the carbon out". (grin)

Sometimes you can putt some panther pi$$ (fuel injector cleaner) in the gas tank that'll do the same thing. Sometimes higher octaine gasoline will stopitt, which is cheaper than pulling the heads and cleaning carbon deposits which usually ends up being engine overhaul. Its the curse of NO-LEAD gasoline..... ....Dell

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david from mo

10-31-2003 20:11:34




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 Re: OT -Ol' Farm truck actin' up again in reply to Rob N VA, 10-31-2003 19:21:29  
yes you may need new valve seals ,can be installed without remove heads.Use air pressure to hold valves up.Those engines were prone to plugging exhaust crossover passage in intake. Remove intake and chisel out carbon.Will make choke open up and let engine idle slow enough



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