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DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM

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BOB G (TEXAS)

01-11-2004 12:24:45

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I am stumpped and I really could use some good advice. I have a 9N with a front mount distributor and a 12 volt conversion. I am not getting any spark at the plugs. I am getting 3 to 4 volts at the coil with the resistor in line and 12 volts without the resistor in line. I have changed the coil, plugs, points, rotor, distributor cap and condensor. I believe something in the distributor may not be working properly but I don't know how to determine what it is.

1) I removed the breaker plate, cam and weight assembly. Is there a specific way to reinstall it? To me, it appears that it just drops back in. Am I correct?

2) When I reinstall the distributor on the engine, I just line up the tang on the distributor with the slot on the engine thigamajig (crankshaft?)and the distributor installs flush with the engine block. I line it up by rotating the rotor. Is this correct?

3) While having this problem my starter drive busted-up and I replaced the starter drive but I don't belive that this has anyting to do with the problem. Do you agree? It wouldn't start before I replaced the starter drive and it hasn't started since I replaced the starter drive.

4) This problem started right after I pressure washed the tractor. I think that this is a coincidence. Do you agree?

5) I don''t understand how to check the voltage with the points open and the points closed. How do you know when they are open and how do you know when they are closed? Do you check it at the coil or do you check it a a spark plug wire connection at the distributor cover plate? I have a volt meter.

Any advice that you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Upper Peninsula, Mich

01-12-2004 06:55:32

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Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to BOB G (TEXAS), 01-11-2004 12:24:45

I'posting late, so you may have it running by now. Bob, I like North Dakota, do not believe pressure washing was a coincidence. If you havene't done the following, please take the time to; Take off the distributor again and comletely dry it out, reset the points, wipe out the cap and rotor. I think, if you don't have any other related problems, it will take right off.Good luck. Ron

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Dell (WA)

01-11-2004 14:01:51

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Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to BOB G (TEXAS), 01-11-2004 12:24:45

Bob..... ...the fact that your frontmount coil voltage reads about 4 volts tells you that the points are closed and when the points are open, your coil terminal should read battery volts. THATS NORMAL, Kirchhoffs Rule still rules.

Sounds like your coil bottoms springy-thingy needs to be gently stretched so you make certain contact with the distributor rotor contact.

Pressure washing can get water into the distributor and water shorts out yer sparkies. You do know that there is supposted to be a gasket between yer 4-nipple crabcap and distributor body and a gasket between your squarecan ignition coil and the distributor body, don't you? ..... ...respectfully, Dell

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BOB G (TEXAS)

01-11-2004 14:10:57

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Re: Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to Dell (WA), 01-11-2004 14:01:51

I'll check the springy-thingy again but I pretty sure that it is streched-out. I had both gaskets in when I pressure washed it. How do I get the points open so that I can check to see if there is 12 volts?

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Dell (WA)

01-11-2004 14:26:20

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Re: Re: Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to BOB G (TEXAS), 01-11-2004 14:10:57

Bob..... ...if'n yer gittin' 4 volts at the squarecan coil terminal, you'll get 12 volts at the terminal when the points open.

If'n ya just gott check, put tractor in gear and push on one of those great big levers called rear tires and WATCH your meter change back and forth. OR put yer engine in neutral and pull/tug your fanblade to turn your engine and WATCH you meter..... ....Dell

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North of Fargo

01-11-2004 13:14:49

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Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to BOB G (TEXAS), 01-11-2004 12:24:45

Bob, I use an 8N sidemount but as far as I know the dist. on yours will only line up one way so you should be all right. I don't think it was a coincidence with the pressure washer, maybe just needed points dried and cleaned after. If you don't know how to tell points open or closed you won't have them gapped correctly and that is probably why it won't start. Check out the tune-up guide under Research & Info. section in the left hand column.

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BOB G (TEXAS)

01-11-2004 14:03:57

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Re: Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to North of Fargo, 01-11-2004 13:14:49

I'm sorry, I obviously wasn't very clear on the points open, points closed comment. With regard to reading the voltage with a volt meter, I don't know how to determine if the points are open or closed. I'm OK on gapping the points. I gapped them according to the F04 manual. Thanks for your commnts.

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Dan

01-11-2004 13:09:52

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Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to BOB G (TEXAS), 01-11-2004 12:24:45

Make sure the copper connector is in place between the condensor screw and the points screw - otherwise you will get no spark to the spark plug wires. While your in there spray a shot or two of WD40 to dry out any water that may have found its way into the inner distributor when you pressure washed.

The only way you will know for sure if the points are open or closed is to watch them with the dist. cap off and make sure they are closing all the way.

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BOB G (TEXAS)

01-11-2004 14:06:53

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Re: Re: DISTRIBUTOR PROBLEM in reply to Dan, 01-11-2004 13:09:52

Please see my follow-up post on gapping the points. I'm sorry that I wasn't that clear in my initial post. I did gap the points correctly. The copper piece is installed correctly. Thanks for your time.

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