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Rob N VA

01-11-2004 18:13:09




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First question: My 1950 8N is a little beat up, and a lite work tractor, the hood and hood "legs" are a little beat up and this past fall I took the hood off to do some repairs and I also took the radiator out to flush it and paint the shroud. Ever since I did that, the fan is beating up against something, and I believe it is the shroud. How important is the shroud (can I remove it?) and what can I do to remedy this problem?

Second question: I need to fashion some sort of a wagon to the back of my 8N for hauling wood. Any suggestions? Any local guys know where I can buy one? There is a thing at the bottom diferential that looks like a sort of trailer hitch, but there is no way to get a bolt through there. I know it is part of the swinging drawbar setup, but I don't understand how it works. If I could figure it out, I would like to try to use the wagon I have for my lawnmower (the lawnmower dosen't have too much traction in the snow). Thanks for the help!!!----Rob

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Rob N VA

01-12-2004 18:00:30




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 Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:13:09  
Thanks to all of you!! I think I finlly understand how it works now.---Rob



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souNdguy

01-12-2004 04:59:55




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 Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:13:09  
Oh yeah... one more easy way. If you have a beat up rear implement.. like a box blade.. I've seen trailer balls welded to the top lip of those too.

Soundguy



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Loren - Minnesota

01-11-2004 23:14:17




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 Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:13:09  
For what it's worth, here's what my dad did. If you look at Phil (NY) picture, remove the 2 stabilizer that run up to the 3rd link. He built a platform on 4 x 4's (actually full 3 x 6 native lumber), that ran over the drawbar and under the rear axle. But small L brackets on the front and rear of the axle to hold in in place. They were about 8 ft. long. Bolted/nailed 2 x 4's to the frame with a small 1 x 4 front end behind the trans housing. Had about a 4 - 5ft. bed on back. You could drop the back right down to the ground. Used it to haul hay to the pasture, fire wood to the house, and cutting green corn (by hand) to open field before cutting sileage or picking corn (had a pull type at the time). And amazingly, it was not that hard to put on or take off. Sure beat backing a trailer.

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Loren - Minnesota

01-11-2004 23:19:53




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 Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Loren - Minnesota, 01-11-2004 23:14:17  
Oh, by the way, still have the 8N, and Dad's JD A, and Grandpa's JD 60. Dad and Grandpa have both since departed. I bought a 4 1/2 X 8 ft. trailer from Home Depot, and that's what I use now. Under $600.00



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souNdguy

01-11-2004 19:12:44




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 Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:13:09  
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As Phil indicated, you either need to fabricate a stabilizer that keeps your 3pt drawbar from rotating, OR buy a 3pt hitch receiver made specifically for a trailer ball, OR finish assembling your towbar.

You'll find that you nned a bar that goes up into that narrow area under the diffy. then you can slide a pin up thru and use a hairpin to secure it.. pin only needs to be 2" long or so... I ended up using a cat 2 toplink pin I think.. and cutting it down.

The towbar than sets atop your 3pt drawbar, and uses various stailizer methods.. I've seen many different setups. Phil has a couple good shots.
A suitable tow bar is available at tractor supply. On mine I then used a 'U' bolt to limit the towbars movement on the 3pt drawbar.... works well enough

Alternately, you can weld a cheapy one up like I did for my NAA... the ugly bracket I made is merely a piece of rebar bent 90', and has two pieces of 2" ibeam welded to it. The ibeam on the 'top' saddles one of the lower lift arms, and attatches with a u-bolt. the other ibeam saddles the 3pt drawbar, and has a bolt welded to the bottom of it that aligns in one of the drawbars holes. then add a washer and locknut, etc.. and it is mounted... the drawbar cannot rotate in relation to thelower lift arm... keep in mind.. if you lift the lower lift arms.. you will change the angle of the drawbar.. so i always ran mine with the lift in the down position.. worked greak on a hay ride...
This one is quick and dirty.. and was made from 100% free scrap iron I 'liberated' from my day jobs scrap heap... The only thing uglier than the design.. is my welding skills.. or lack therof.

Soundguy

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Phil (nY)

01-11-2004 18:24:59




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 Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:13:09  
well first you dont need the fan shraud. i don't have one on my 2n. it was an add on for extreem use. like 10 hours a day+.

the trailor would be hard attach to the drawbar. unless you made a custom plate that keeps it from tilting..(ask soundguy about it) . if you go to any home depote or lowes, or even a auto part store. they ussilly have some cheep tralors that you can buy. or trailor kits. the thing on the bottom of the diffy is were your tow bar hooks up to. i will post a pic in a second if i can...hth

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Phil (NY)

01-11-2004 18:28:36




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 Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Phil (nY), 01-11-2004 18:24:59  
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Tow bar. this will be a good hitch for a trailor



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Rob N VA

01-11-2004 18:36:33




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 Re: Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Phil (NY), 01-11-2004 18:28:36  
Thank you Phil, that is a pretty good picture, do you have a close up of how the center tow bar attaches to the thing under the diffy?



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Don in Tallahassee

01-11-2004 18:47:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:36:33  
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The drawbar under the differential attaches to a plate that looks like this. There is a pin that goes into a hole that has two pins through it and is turned 90 degrees after it is inserted.
hope this helps. Don

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souNdguy

01-11-2004 19:15:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Don in Tallahassee, 01-11-2004 18:47:13  
The pin for mine was long gone when I got my 8n.. I wonder if they still exist anywhere? I resorted to cutting a hardened pin from tractor supply, and using a hairpin thru it. So far works.. but I'd love to find an original somewhere..

Good to hear from you.

Soundguy



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phil

01-11-2004 18:54:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Don in Tallahassee, 01-11-2004 18:47:13  
don has the pic im looking for



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Phil(NY)

01-11-2004 18:43:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2 questions in reply to Rob N VA, 01-11-2004 18:36:33  
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there is a pin that should go through the 2 and keep it in place... im look for a better picture



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