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Rob JW

01-30-2004 19:38:03

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Need your help guys, I bought a battery 6 months ago,(had it checked and recharged) still won't hold a charge, have to jump start it with another 6 volt. After it's running for a approx 5 min it sputter's out like it's starving for fuel.I've checked the fuel system, seems normal other than the top of the carb appears to be freezing up ( frosty ) added some gasoline anti freeze,and I'm still stuck with a tractor ('48 8n )that will only run for 5 mins almost to the second !! Battery?fuel?other? Any advice appreciated
Rob

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Roger '40 9n

01-31-2004 05:30:11

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

I would suspect carb icing.
check out the thread called "Carb icing at what temperature"
Frost on the outside of the carb means
frost on the inside also. It is the water in the air that is freezing so adding "dry gas" does
not help that problem. Many folks on this forum
suggest adding an aluminum foil heat housing
around the carb to retain heat. It has been discussed here in several threads.

Roger in Michigan.

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Dell (WA)

01-30-2004 22:21:34

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

Rob..... .....you may be dealing with 2 different problems. New batterys generally don't go bad in 6 months and won't hold a charge....BUT....it is entirely possible that your genny NEVER charges your battery. When you replaced your battery did you remember to "polarize" your voltage regulator? Its always good practice to re-polarize anytime you have battery won't hold charge problems.

You do know how to "polarize your VR/genny don't you? Simply arc-spark your side-by-side voltage regulator BATT and ARM terminals with a short wire or wide screwdriver blade.

Your dieing after 5 mins is a little problematical, but I believe that it is the result of BAD ignition switch gutts and low battery that we already know about. You doubt? Next time your tractor stops, simply jump your ignition switch with a pre-made jumper wire with alligator clippies. Should start right up. Ignition switches "cure" themselves overnite..... .....Dell

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souNdguy

01-30-2004 22:05:47

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

My bet is with cdbohio... on the battery issue. You mention your old battery won't hold a charge. Is your genny charging? does the meter show a charge/ If not.. there is no 'juice' to run the tractor except wht it picked up from the jump start.. ( depending on how you jumped it.. ).

Though the other responses are certaintly possibilities. If it won't run it has got to be spark, air, fuel or compression...

Soundguy

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Upper Peninsula,Mich

01-30-2004 20:37:08

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

Rob. Check to see if you are operating on the fuel reserve in the tank, if so open the shutoff all the way, rather than the normal two turns. Might want to put in a gallon or so more gas to make sure you have enough. Also if the filter is lying horizontal, it just might not be getting enough gas. This just happened to me last fall on a 9N that I got at that time. I bent the fuel line to create more flow to and through the filter. Temporary solved the problem. Good luck. Ron

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cdbohio

01-30-2004 20:32:58

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

Try leaving your good battery hooked up to the tractor and see if it runs longer. Could be genny not making juice and when your bad battery runs out there isn't enough juice to keep it running. Could also be coil. Also try the make shift heater for the carb. but usually dry gas is enough to end the icing problem.

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Dawgrex

01-30-2004 19:57:02

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

Have you checked the flow of fuel to your carb?When it quits will it not spin over by the starter?

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Rob Jw

01-30-2004 20:10:05

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Re: Re: stalling in reply to Dawgrex, 01-30-2004 19:57:02

I have checked my fuel flow to the the carb and it checks fine, although, the fella that had it before me put in a fuel filter 1/2 way between the tank and the carb and I did notice that the fuel was just trickling into the filter whereas before the fuel filter resavoir was always 3/4 to full @ operating.????

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Dave OH

01-30-2004 20:48:26

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Re: Re: Re: stalling in reply to Rob Jw, 01-30-2004 20:10:05

Actually per "Dell" when the extra filter fills up it is plugging up and needs replaced.
Dave OH

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Rob Jw

01-30-2004 21:04:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: stalling in reply to Dave OH, 01-30-2004 20:48:26

Is there any problem just taking out and bypassing the extra filter. Is this extra filter just an over-precaution ?.
Thanx Rob

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Dave OH

02-01-2004 21:42:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: stalling in reply to Rob Jw, 01-30-2004 21:04:01

Actually, many say it is not needed. Personally I am going to install one just for that extra protection. But I will install it just above the carb in a vertical position.
Dave OH

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Screens..John,PA

01-30-2004 19:55:01

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Re: stalling in reply to Rob JW, 01-30-2004 19:38:03

Might consider checking the condition of the fuel screens. There is one in the fuel tank which is attached to the fuel shut off valve. Have to take the valve out to get to it. There is one in the fuel bowl, and one at the carbutetor in the fuel inlet elbow.

Some of the fellas have had good luck with wrapping the intake manifold with aluminum foil wrap to help prevent carb. icing.

Hope all this helps.

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