Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
:

Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
B ill Stanley

08-22-2004 19:29:22




Report to Moderator

Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well

There must be a trick to putting stabilizer bars on that I have not discovered. The first set put on four years ago didn’t seem to fit very well either. There seems to be about 1/32 to 1/16 inch misfit on one side. Although I worked all afternoon the solution has not been discovered. It would appear that there is a slight problem in the geometry. What normally is done to correct a misfit? The bush hog has only been off once and I remember having a difficult time reconnecting it.

I really don’t want to make the hole larger unless it is considered the normal cure. The arms from the base of the tractor have not been welded however the adjustable up link has been welded. Since the adjustable arm was welded the length would not seem to be critical. The angle bracket mounted to the bottom of the trumpet has four holes but only one comes anywhere close to fitting.

What piece of information is missing? This cannot possibly be as complicated as I have made it. Thanks.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
GaryG

08-24-2004 23:07:15




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Bill,

I know this is a few days too late, but I haven't been around and just saw your post. The only thing I can add is that I put on stabilizer bars and brackets a few days ago and I had some trouble in the beginning, but then realized something.

To line them up, I had to hook the arms to the brackets on the farthest hole from the rear of the tractor or closest one to the front. I then had to make sure my hog was aligned directly, and I mean "directly", behind my tractor and then I had to raise the hog slightly and make sure it was level. After I figured that out, they went on smooth. I got them from TSC. My two cents worth. - GaryG

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jerry/MT

08-23-2004 13:22:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Have you located the pin on the axle bracket so that it lines up with the pivot point on the lift arms at the differential housing?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Stanley

08-23-2004 15:11:11




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to Jerry/MT, 08-23-2004 13:22:46  
Jerry the pins are not quite 100% inline with the lift arm pivot point but they are very close. The other three holes are nowhere close to working and I don’t have a clue how they might be used.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Stanley

08-23-2004 09:49:49




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Thanks for the help and all the suggestions. The bracket under the trumpet is large angle iron and is not pinned to the trumpet. It also has four holes for different pin locations. I didn’t loosen the fenders bolts knowing that it would take several days for penetrating oil to soak in enough to get them loose.

I was successful only after loosening the bolts to the pins under the trumpet and continuing to move the lift and the hog. The wife who is usually helpful wasn’t this time and I feel like a one arm paperhanger. Took an hour and I’m too tired to work. And it’s too early in the day for a beer. Instead let the tractor idle me off down into the woods to retrieve a wheelbarrow the wife used to carry a fuel can to her out of gas mower several weeks ago.

Something is definitely not quite correct with the geometry and putting things back in a bind just doesn’t feel good.

Does anyone know the purpose of the other pin locations on the bracket under the trumpet?

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Russ in SoCal

08-23-2004 12:50:52




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to Bill Stanley, 08-23-2004 09:49:49  
Bill,
All them extry holes is fer when yer wife wants her own tractor and it"s a diff"rent make with diff"rent geojectry or whatever ya said. Then she can snatch them bars off"n yer"s and put "em on her"s.
Russ



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Stanley

08-24-2004 16:00:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to Russ in SoCal, 08-23-2004 12:50:52  
She has a 50-hp. deer and a 62” Toro Z mower. Her technique is wide open, never look back, and never change the lift position. She has been mowing all week and all the grass is brown because the decks are too low.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
OH Boy

08-23-2004 07:31:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
What I find is happening with my bars is the various implements I own seem to have different 3 point hitch widths. So, a set of stabilizer bars that is perfect length for my bush hog, I find would be too long or too short when I put on my blade for example.

I generally find I can only get one stabilizer bar on, can"t usually get the second one on.

Does anybody know if anyone sells a stabilizer bar that is adjustable in length? If just one side were adjustable, we could make everything fit just right with two bars.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rob

08-23-2004 08:24:34




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to OH Boy, 08-23-2004 07:31:04  
You know something? Some guys use just one bar anyway.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
OH Boy

08-23-2004 12:07:59




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to Rob, 08-23-2004 08:24:34  
Thanks your very helpful



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Upper Peninsula, Michq

08-23-2004 07:03:34




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Hi Bill. These are all very good suggestions. However,I have a couple of pair, one very old and one brand new. The new ones don't fit as good as the old ones, probably because the holes on the old set are elongated thru several years of use. I often have to get them just close to going on then rear back and give them a "well placed and thought out kick" and on they go. I wouldn't be concerned about taking a file to them and elongating the hole. Your just going to do up front what years of use will do anyway. Some implements fit better than others.Good luck.Ron

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
souNdguy

08-23-2004 06:19:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
I've also seen a bracket that has an elongated hole for fine adjustment.. Might do that to yours with a half round file.

My guess would be non-oem lift arms.. or a mix of oem arms and brackets.

My 8n came with oem brackets, arms and stabilizers. My NAA came with oem brackets, and I added replacement arms and stabilizers.. my 2n had nothing and I used the tsc brackets, and stabilizers.. all went on with -0- problems.

good luck

Soundguy

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Leroy

08-23-2004 05:14:11




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
That bracket under the axle cannot be moved as the pin has to align up with the pin in the lift arm perfectly, what will cause that problem is if after market lift arms have been installed, i have been fighting that problem for years and have one orignal bar with the orignal cast brackets, I finally found out the replacements on the sway bars are about a 1/16 -1/8" different in length as are the replacement lift armes are a bit shorter than the orignals, also the bar from A Massey Ferguson orignal is slightly different than for an N series Ford. What has to be done but I havent done it yet is to relocate the hole in the sway bar

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TONY B.

08-23-2004 04:52:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Is it only the bush hog that is hard to connect with the stabilizers, or do you have the problem with other 3-pt equipment as well? If they work with other pieces then I would say the hitch on the hog is slightly off or bent.
Try to attach the bars with the mower just barely lifted off the ground; this will give you the most side to side play to make a connection, you might just have to shove it to one side a little. Be sure you have the bars turned the right way, there should be a slight curve at each end where the holes are, at least on oem bars there is. 1/32 - 1/16" isn't much, try reversing the bars from side to side, or try reversing the order of hookup, ie. put the left bar on first then the right or viceversa. In any event, if you are able to push them on it sure will be nice and tight to keep from swaying.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Steve IA

08-23-2004 04:09:22




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
The simple solution is to just use one bar. That's all I've had/used for 20 years. Steve 8N I69302



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Russ in SoCal

08-22-2004 22:45:39




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Bill,
On the set I have, just guessing they're from Tisco, the holes for the fender bolts are slightly elongated. Could floppy fenders be your solutiion?
Russ



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Len....NY

08-22-2004 22:10:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
Hey Bill, It's been a while since I installed those three holed fender/axle brackets. But I think maybe the mounting bolt holes are elongated for adjustment. It's worth loosening 'em up and taking a look. HTH



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
DON TX

08-22-2004 21:26:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
I have the same prob with mine. I need to shorten or remove 2 spacers I put in the hitch on the hog when I was trying to tighten it up. It was way loose but real easy to hook up. I was worried the slop would waller the holes. Your spacing between the bottom link pin hook up on your mower may be incorrect. Too wide in my case. HTH
DON TX



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
John,PA

08-22-2004 19:45:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: Stabilizer bars – don’t fit very well in reply to B ill Stanley, 08-22-2004 19:29:22  
I think your simplest solution would be to enlogate the holes in the stabilizer bar where they attach to the trumpet (under fender) brackets. I seem to remember,()) so probably wrong,) that the brackets could be installed on the wrong trumpets. In other words, I think this is what makes the holes not line up. Maybe the bracket on the right trunpet belongs on the left trumpet, etc. Hope this helps.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy