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Rob N VA

08-31-2004 19:03:29




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Is it ok to clean out the oil filter can with gasoline? Will this harm anything as long as I get all the gas out before I change the oil? Is it OK to use synthetic oil in my 8N? Thanks for any input----- -ROb




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PloughNman

09-01-2004 18:24:49




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
Hey Rob-
Lots of good suggestions here. Best way is to completely remove unit from tractor as described. Take it to your outside workbench and place it in a clean, empty coffee can then fill it up with clean, fresh mineral spirits. Good stuff-safer than gas, kerosene, or diesel fuel, although those items would work too, 'cuz yer gonna use compressed air to completely blow the excess off and dry thoroughly. Not a matter of you not changing oil at regular intervals,rather the guy that owned it before you may not have been so particular. I use mineral spirits for all my bolt cleaning, part solvent washing, etc. Some skin irritation may occur so recommend using rubber gloves and eye protection as always. Just my .02 cents worth...

Tim

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Leemo

09-01-2004 14:19:35




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
yep, nope, nope



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Dell (WA)

09-01-2004 07:35:32




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
Rob..... ....I just always mopped the oil out witha red rag. But boy iff'n yer oilfilter canistor is fulla sludge that ya haffta cutt with a solvent, ya ain't been changing it off'n enuff..... ...Dell



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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

09-01-2004 07:04:44




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
I"d take the can off the tractor first, but I don"t see a problem with it. Of course, my personal preference is to use diesel (you know, something about explosions, sparks, that kinda "neat" stuff).

HTH
Steve



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Rob

09-01-2004 05:38:11




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
You've probably got a can of paint thinner (Stoddard solvent; mineral spirits) around. Use that to clean the filter can. Lot, lot safer than and will do just as well as gasoline. Funny thing, it's easier on the paint and finish too. Soak a rag or a brush and clean the can; no problem if some of it gets in the oil.



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SteveB(wi)

09-01-2004 05:23:39




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
I usually completely remove the oil filter can when I change the oil. It"s only two bolts and two oil lines easy to get to. Clean it out good, dry with a rag, and reinstall. If I"m really ambitious I"ll prefill it with oil.



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Apollo

09-01-2004 04:38:52




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
I don't see any reason to run synthetics in an N engine. I'm a synthetic advocate, but with the high quality dino oils available I don't think you will see any benefit in switching to a synthetic in an N.

There are also issues with running a multigrade weight oil (XW-XX) in an N engine (oil pump loosing prime) and I think a synthetic could compound that problem.

The lowest quality dino oil available today is far superior to anything that was available when your N was new. Keep the synthetic for your high reving car and do extended OCI's, use the dino in your low rpm N and change it a couple of times a year.

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MikeT

08-31-2004 20:36:48




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Rob N VA, 08-31-2004 19:03:29  
I wouldn't pour gasoline into the canister, but a rag damp with gas is OK. Clean out all the crud then wipe clean with a dry rag.

I asked Mobil about using their synthetic oil in old engines and they said they would not recommend using it in any engine made prior to 1970 due to possible incompatibility with seals.

I'm using 10W50.



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Bob

08-31-2004 20:59:07




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to MikeT, 08-31-2004 20:36:48  
As far as cleaning the oil filter housing out with gasoline, the only problem would be the fire hazard, as long as you wipe it clean, so there us no great amount of gas left in the bottom. For the gasoline dumped in the filter housing to continue on to the governor, you'd have to fill the filter housing almost full, as the outlet to the governor is a tiny hole up near the top of the tube up the center of the housing. The only thing would be if you dumped a lot of gas in there and left it, it could flow back to the oil gallery, and into the pump, and flush the oil off the pump gears, making the pump have a hard time priming. If the housing is really dirty and needs cleaning, it's a simple matter to remove it and clean and dry it away from the tractor.

There's no question the oil company is practicing CYA with that caution against synthetic oil. They don't want the possible liability of being blamed for every leak that the old tractor has, now and in the future.

Furthermore, most of these engines have been overhauled many times over the years, and the seal materials are likely from a much more modern era than the date the tractor was manufactured.

The bottom line is that if you personally want to run synthetic oil, it ain't gonna hurt a thing.

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Paul, Wy.

09-08-2004 09:12:25




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 Re: Oil filter can in reply to Bob, 08-31-2004 20:59:07  
Most common synthetic motors oils are formulated with PAO basestock and as such are compatible with mineral base oils. The synthetic PAO is often blended with small amounts of mineral oil in order to hold the desired additive package since synthetic don't naturaly want to hold the add-packs. Another major problem with swapping older engines is that the synthetic oil is a much more aggressive cleanser of the sludge and grime that has built up over time. Once this contamination starts to circulate it could lead to accelerated engine wear and premature failure. It is recommended to run a commercial flush product and change the filter a couple of times before filling with synthetic oil.

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