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Lug nut pain in the neck

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Rob

09-09-2004 06:30:39




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Replacing tubes on the front wheels of a 2N yesterday. Came up against those lugnuts again. If you're going to go after them I advise you get yourself an 11/16" 6-point socket. I couldn't get some loose with any 12-point wrench or my good, chrome plated 4-way 6pt lug wrench. I go through this everytime but not often enough to recall the last time.
Now New Holland sells 30-cent lug nuts for the N but....
They are not 11/16" like you got on there nor will they go on that 7/16" stud! The new studs are 1/2" and cost $7. You'll be lucky to find anyone local with nuts or studs that you can use.
So anyway, if you need to remove a front wheel plan ahead, have an 11/16" 6-pt wrench, and order your replacement nuts and studs before hand.

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don b

09-09-2004 08:55:34




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 Re: Lug nut pain in the neck in reply to Rob, 09-09-2004 06:30:39  
Front wheel studs[78-1107] should be 1/2" not 7/16.I don't have a clue as to how you have 7/16 but I have new 78-1107 studs for 2.00 ea. and nuts[2n-1012] for .30 ea. don b



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Rob

09-09-2004 09:11:53




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 Re: Lug nut pain in the neck in reply to don b, 09-09-2004 08:55:34  
Yeah, that 1/2" is what New Holland sells. Don't fit and an 11/16" wrench won't fit 'em either.



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don b

09-09-2004 10:23:51




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 Re: Lug nut pain in the neck in reply to Rob, 09-09-2004 09:11:53  
Rob, after looking in some of my old stock parts,I came up with 12 7/16 studs.They are shorter than the 78-1107.These are made the same with the side of the head cut off and are 1.100 long from under the head to the end of the threads.I have no idea when they were used,but evidently they were because both of us have them.Maybe my friend Scott can give a little info on the 7/16 studs.If you want these, give me an email or call. don b

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FishbonzWV

09-09-2004 07:21:49




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 Re: Lug nut pain in the neck in reply to Rob, 09-09-2004 06:30:39  
Had problems getting mine off the Jubilee...had to use a pipe wrench on a couple. Went to NAPA $1.00 each. Rears $2.00. They are the original size.

Bonz



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Rob

09-09-2004 07:28:32




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 Well that's good to know! in reply to FishbonzWV, 09-09-2004 07:21:49  
I want to replace one stud and nut back to the original size. I'll check NAPA. Stud might be a problem because the head has to match. NAPA might have those fluted press-in type studs and I don't know if that's the way to do.



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FishbonzWV

09-09-2004 07:36:52




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 Re: Well that's good to know! in reply to Rob, 09-09-2004 07:28:32  
Rob,
When I was redoing 'Maggie' this winter I got tired of driving 60 miles to get parts from NH. Started calling the nearby NAPA for ignition, brakes, gaskets, etc. They would pull out the old parts books and look em up. Saved gas and money.

Bonz



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Rob

09-09-2004 08:43:58




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 'Maggie' huh? in reply to FishbonzWV, 09-09-2004 07:36:52  
Well how's ol' Maggie doing?



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FishbonzWV

09-09-2004 11:01:27




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 Re: 'Maggie' huh? in reply to Rob, 09-09-2004 08:43:58  
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Runnin like a champ. Got about 34 acres of ridge top hay fields to cut this weekend. Can't find anyone that wants to cut 'em. Such a waste but thats the way it goes.

Bonz



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Rob

09-09-2004 12:57:08




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 Pretty tractor in a pretty picture! in reply to FishbonzWV, 09-09-2004 11:01:27  
Nice view there.



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Ron from IL

09-09-2004 06:47:51




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 Re: Lug nut pain in the neck in reply to Rob, 09-09-2004 06:30:39  
Rob,

When I have nuts/studs/bolts that cause repeated problems with removal, I use silver hi-temp anti-seize on them. Never a problem afterwards.

Good luck!

Ron



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Rob

09-09-2004 06:55:50




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 Re: Lug nut pain in the neck in reply to Ron from IL, 09-09-2004 06:47:51  
I think about putting anti-seeze on those nuts but always decide against it. They aren't that tough to deal with so long as you have the right tool. The wrong tool just rounds em off.



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gahorn

09-09-2004 08:57:54




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 CAREFULL w those studs! in reply to souNdguy, 09-09-2004 06:34:02  
TSC carries 1/2" nuts. But the problem is modern wheel lugnuts are commonly a different thread count (20 if I recall). Anyway, if you decide to change your studs, I'd suggest you ONLY use original parts. Replacement studs from the autoparts store (with flutes) have two problems...1) they usually must have one side of their head ground off to fit the reinforced rim-ring on the backside of the hub and 2) their slightly increased O.D. (due to the flutes) will put a hairline crack in your cast hub on its O.D. A whole day wasted at 3 different autoparts store digging thru their boxes/shelves to try to locate correct studs
just to end up with what you think will work, but which actually ends up cracking your hubs is no fun. (On top of that, the only stud I could find also was a hair too long and had to have an aluminum washer under the convex nut in order to fit snug against the hub. Trust me, you'll be disappointed.) Get the correct part from Holland and live with the oddsized (but correct) lugnuts. My 2 cents.

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