Rob, My first tractor was a Ford 3000 because I knew that an 8N was not heavy enough for the jobs I had to do on my new farm. Then when my Uncle died I got to buy his 8N from the estate - first thing I ever drove with a motor in it. I have used it a lot for plowing, grading and hauling stuff in the big scoop I have. BUT, I never bush hog with my Uncle's 8N. That is something that is only done on the 3000. Of course, I should mention that I am known to cut down any tree that the front end can push over - that goes up to 3" in diameter! Just not a job for the 8N. I also have a Woods back hoe that will only go on the 3000. A few times I too would like an even bigger tractor. The saying, "The right tool for the job!" is still true. And trying to use an undersized "tool" often means you are going to have trouble! So, not to feel gulity about haveing the desire for a bigger tractor - A man should have at least TWO tractors - I'm a charter member! :-) The thing with the tree is the ablity to lift straight up. Tree roots are ment to resist side loads from wind during storms, not straight up lifting, an unnatural load - even for a tornado! I lost two trees during a bad storm the 7th of May. One tree took out my light pole. While all the power lines were down I cut a bunch of other trees that could take out the lines. One was a big pine. I have cut it into two equal length pieces that I am going to try to make a "stump lift" with. Sort of on the same line as has been posted on the board before, where an rear tire rim is used to run the chain over and down to the stump to change the horizontal pull from a tractor to a vertical (at least initally) pull on the stump. If I ever get the job done I'll post some pictures. Regards, Larry
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