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Getting a new 11.2x28 questions

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Diverjeff

11-30-2004 17:37:35




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Hello all,

Have a local tire dealer agree to put on a 11.2x28 8 ply rear tire with tube,tax & labor on my 2N for $200.67 Will be putting tire on left side of tractor as your sitting on it. Question is do both wheels pull at the same time? The tire on the right is a little worn but not nearly as much as the one I am replacing. Also, dealer trying to sell me a product to put in tube to prevent flats. Anyone use this before?

Happy Holidays (Safety & blue skies),

DJ

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rasputen

12-01-2004 18:52:19




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
RE:Tucker

I got 2 12.4X28 (foriegn made)tires mounted on new rims from Tucker this spring for $535 &free shipping.

I did this so I could (Eventually) restore my 8N rims that are in pretty good shape.

Highly recomend Tucker for working tires if you are not going for restoration. I have 2 Fords so I will use these for both while (eventually) restoring.



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Jake In TX

12-01-2004 11:54:23




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
Jeff tsc got tire sealer 1995 gal come with a pump easy to put in but you got to have a air comp 1 gal will do it but you cant use it with liquid I got it in all my off road eqp



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Stickler

12-01-2004 09:24:13




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
I wish we had your prices! I just put new tires and tubes all around on my 2N. The fronts were nearly 175 each, and that was carry-in. The rears were 400 each without fluid. 60 mile service call.

Just a flat repair here is 50 for a rear, plus another 50 for the service call. I'd just buy new every time if I could get them for 200!



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souNdguy

12-01-2004 13:29:55




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Stickler, 12-01-2004 09:24:13  
Your joking right? 175$ for a front.

Here, a front is about 40, and the tube may be anywhere from 5-15$.. if the guy comes out it is a 50$ service call, plus mileage if over about 20 miles...

Soundguy



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souNdguy

12-01-2004 06:46:06




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
That price is similar to 'carry' in price for florida. I replaced a rear on my 8n a while back. Other side was old.. but had good trad. Difference in tire heights was less than a half inch... old tire just had a rotted and gashed side wall.

I also replaced a big 16.9x24 sand tire on my NAA.. one side was about 25% worn the other suffered a bead seperation.. had to bite 400+ bucks to get that puppy changed.. new tire was about an ince overall different side to side.. I run it a couple pounds low on air and it is almost perfect.. Sometimes it's just too expensive to change all the rubber at once. If It's close I'd go for it.. if the other tire is bald.. I'd change them both.

Soundguy

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bj/8n/mt

12-01-2004 04:53:36




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
What is going to matter to the spider gears in the differential is tire circumference. This can vary greatly depending on tread pattern; brand; and wear despite what is marked on the side walls. Should be within two or three inches side to side with both measurements either with weight on or relaxed.

If two hundred includes a service call that is about the going rate in this area. IF you are carrying the tire in it is on the high side.

Your mileage may vary

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RuintTX

12-01-2004 02:32:52




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
I'm in North Texas, right smack in the middle of Mesquite Tree hell, their thorns are also like spikes. I've used Slime and Berryman's in my 8N and riding mower tires with great results. But you may have been offered a tire filling process which I was offered when I put new front tires on the tractor a month ago. It consists of two different chemicals that are pumped in and allowed to cure for 48 hours. Basically making the tire solid, no air required, and obviously no flats. Price quote was $0.95 per pound and roughly $100 per tire & That's the Fronts!! I can't imagine what the rears would cost, but I'll stick with the Slime. IMHO

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Jay 2NSC

11-30-2004 19:43:48




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
Hi Diverjeff, someone will correct me if I"m wrong,but I think you should replace both rear tire"s at the same time.Something about uneven wear on the rear end differential,gear"s,bearing"s etc. HTH, Jay 2NSC



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Gary Prestridge

11-30-2004 19:31:09




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
Don't know where you are located but that price is plenty high...compare to www.tuckertire.com



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GAJIM

11-30-2004 18:25:01




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
Both wheels pull unless one is spinning. It's possible that the old tire on the left that you're replacing is not the same age as the right side tire resulting in the different tread wear.

If the dealer's trying to put in tire slime - looks like green snot - I've seen it but wouldn't even put it in a bicycle tire. But, I'm a purist. If you've got a new tire, new tube, and a good rim, in my opinion tire snot is a waste of money. GA Jim

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Dan

11-30-2004 18:19:47




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 17:37:35  
I have 42 acres in Black Locust territory - slime sealant is a standard option on my tractors. I have thorns over 8 inches long and strong as all get out. Works great and lasts forever. I do not know how many holes I have plugged in my tube by this sealant, but I'll bet it is hundreds. I put 10 ply tires on as well to help with the small stuff.

Good luck,
Dan



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Bryan(OH)

12-01-2004 18:51:57




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Dan, 11-30-2004 18:19:47  
I"m late on reading (posting) to your post but have to make a comment on the honey locust tree. Had my first experience with a honey locust (thank God only one)when I bought my current home. After running a thorn through my boot sole I made it my goal to get rid of the sucker. With much care and many scratches, I was succesful. Still fighting the stump for shoots. If there is a nastier tree on earth I never want to meet it! I"m surprised you don"t hear of people getting killed on those things. Just plain dangerous!!!

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MikeT

12-01-2004 19:26:12




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Bryan(OH), 12-01-2004 18:51:57  
Dan -

Try getting some Roundup and mixing it REAL strong and soak the stumps good with it.



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TIMW(PA)

11-30-2004 19:14:57




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 Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to Dan, 11-30-2004 18:19:47  
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Here is a pic of some thorns I gathered off a tree while visiting my inlaws in Toledo Ohio. I would hate to see what my tires would look like after driving through these. That is a six inch ruler in ther pic for scale



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Dean

12-01-2004 06:09:19




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 Re: Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 19:14:57  
Nice picture of Honey Locust thorns. Black Locust trees have thorns too but rarely longer than 1/2 inch or so. Have plenty of both on my place.

Dean



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Jeff-AR

11-30-2004 20:31:41




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 Re: Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 19:14:57  
You have my sympathy. Speaking from experience, they will penetrate front tractor tires, boot soles and Carhartt canvas pants. They will also sprout back out from the stump after being cut. I thought the steel wheeled tractor was obsolete, but after dealing with locust trees I began to change my opinion.



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Would that be ---

11-30-2004 20:22:57




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 Re: Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 19:14:57  
the family tree?



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MikeT

11-30-2004 19:49:34




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 Re: Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 19:14:57  
Might be showing my age but I've heard of coon hunters running into those things at night. Are those off a black locust or a honey locust? I've never seen black locust thorns that long.



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TIMW(PA)

11-30-2004 20:08:34




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 correction Honey locust in reply to MikeT , 11-30-2004 19:49:34  
Yep your right. Found a web sight that had them both listed with pics. Sorry bout that



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TomPt

12-01-2004 15:15:17




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 Re: correction Honey locust in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 20:08:34  
Wow I didn't know either. I planted a baby Honey Locust this spring in my yard and was really proud of its growth this summer. I think I will go dig it up after seeing this picture. The name is very misleading.



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timw(pa)

12-01-2004 18:14:08




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 THERE IS A THORNLESS VARIETY in reply to TomPt, 12-01-2004 15:15:17  
Before you dig it up There is a common thornless variety. Infact I had never seen one with the thorns till I happened to see that one. Thats why I gathered the thorns. More than likely yours is the thornless kind and I agree with you a very handsome tree



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Dan

12-01-2004 08:34:36




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 Re: correction Honey locust in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 20:08:34  
Well I'll be - learn something new every day. I have been calling those trees Black Locust for ever. Based on the link you provided, what I do have is Honey Locust. The seed pods on the trees at my property are thick and dark shiny brown.

Thanks for the link.

Dan



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TIMW(PA)

11-30-2004 20:00:43




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 Re: Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to MikeT , 11-30-2004 19:49:34  
I'm not sure now that you said that. I think you may be right. But I cant remember off hand. They are definately wicked though. It is hard just handling them lose like they are. boy running into that in the dark would kill you i think



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Dan

11-30-2004 20:18:10




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 Re: Black Locust Thorns Pic in reply to TIMW(PA), 11-30-2004 20:00:43  
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Try cutting them down and having a few branches rake you on the way down :( The scratch burns for hours on top of the pain.

My property has been uninhabited for about 50 years or so and is overgrown with those trees. My sister calles the Satan Trees... There was a time last Spring we were cutting down 70 or so of those trees a weekend to burn. We have a handle on them now, but has taken over a year of hard work to get then under control. Here is a picture of one of the small trees, and the pile of cut down ones ready to burn. We have gone through several piles this year and gotten to know the local volunteer Fire Department real well - but that is another story....

Dan

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GAJIM

11-30-2004 18:32:15




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Dan, 11-30-2004 18:19:47  
I retract my previous judgment of tire snot. I have never seen an 8 inch thorn, much less had to run a tractor around them. If I had contend with thorns like those, I would run tire snot too. I'm glad the only thing I have to worry about is scratching my arms on a blackberry thorn. GA Jim



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Diverjeff

11-30-2004 18:23:41




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Dan, 11-30-2004 18:19:47  
Dan,

Is this stuff you can but OTC or does the dealer have to put it in?

Thanks,

DJ



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Dan

11-30-2004 18:29:34




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 Re: Getting a new 11.2x28 questions in reply to Diverjeff, 11-30-2004 18:23:41  
You can get it at Wal-Mart or Tractor Supply, or a host of other places. It is kinda expensive, even if you do it yourself - like $30 a tire for the rears. If the dealer will do it close to this amount, I would let them cause it is a pain in the kiester to put in. You can use "Slime", but I use Berrymans and it works fine.

Good luck,
Dan



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