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Rob N VA

12-15-2004 15:06:38




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I forgot a question I was going to ask earlier. I was wondering what kind of equipment there was for shucking corn, and for taking the kernels off the cobb. I saw this device at the fourth of July flee market that you operated by hand and just dumped the cobb in to a chute and turned the crank and it stripped the kernels off the cobb. Pretty neat, and I should have bought it, but didn't. What I am really wondering is, is how would I go about raising feed for ducks/chickens. How do I process it? Can I do it cheaper than buying 50 pound bags of feed at 10 bucks a bag? I was thinking raising some corn would be a start, but I am lost from there. Thanks for any insight!!---Rob

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Ed S. (IL)

12-16-2004 10:00:53




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
Sounds like we're both aiming in the same general direction. We have 15.5 acres in Central IL. About 11 acres are in alfalfa, and I have a local boy cut and bale it for me. He keeps half the hay for his trouble - I sell the rest. I'll break around $2,400 this year. Not that much for the effort, but then, I look at it as an opportunity to get some good outside excersize (since I work a desk job by day) and keep my two boys occupied with manly work.

My oldest boy has 35 hens and a couple roosters. He buys "Layena" mash and supplements with crushed oyster shells and corn. We grew our own corn one year, but as already mentioned, it was way more work than it was worth. A neighbor has been giving us a bit of corn each year after he finishes combining, so that's a solved problem. My boy has made a small profit this year just by selling eggs.

We also have about ten peach trees and a couple apple trees. We use all the fruit ourselves from these. I'd like to start a new orchard soon as these trees are about 15 years old.

Finally, we have about two acres fenced for pasture. The boy that cuts our hay keeps a couple of cows in it during the summer (he paid for materials and installed the fencing himself). My youngest boy will be getting his own calf next spring to raise.

In the three years we've been here since moving from Atlanta, GA, we haven't turned a profit yet, but then I've been buying a piece or two of my own equipment each year. I think I'll just about break even this year, and should turn a small profit next year, now that the expensive part of my 8N rebuild is done .

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valhallareject

12-16-2004 07:25:32




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
Ya know.....no matter what you decide to do....don't do it because you HAVE to! Do it because you WANT to. With that said....be prepared....any agricultural venture it really an ADventure.....so if you aren;t prepared for dry weather when you need wet.....or hot when you need cold.....or windy when you need calm....low prices when you need high...and so forth and so on.....then you have to have the one thing you can always depend on having.....and that's your love for whatever it is you are doing! Single venture farms are pretty much a thing of the past.....get into everything you have room for! If something goes down....hopefully something else will be there to carry that product through. And remember....while you may discover a gold mine....chances are good you won't....but with solid planning, diligence to detail, hard work, and persistence..... when the tractors parked and the chickens cooped up and the dogs all bedded down.....you'll find its the peace of mind that you enjoyed what you did today that really counts!

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Tomatoes..John,PA

12-16-2004 09:52:20




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to valhallareject, 12-16-2004 07:25:32  
In our area, we still have smaller fruit growers who plant tomatoes between the rows of peach trees. So many times the tomatoes saved the farm when frost or other elements ruined the fruit. Peaches are the first "cash crop".



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souNdguy

12-16-2004 06:16:06




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
Where/what are you paying 10$ a bag for? I pay 5-6$ a bag for cracked or whole corn, and 6-7$ a bag for 5 grain scratch.. which is finer cracked corn, and a few other crushed seeds and nut forage for the chickens. I also by plan scratch or mash feed. it is a textured feed that can be bought as 'crumbles' (extruded then roller crushed), or as pelets. (extruded and non-crushed). That runs about 7 bucks a bag. I buy feed from a local co-op, and get a bit of a discount when I buy larger quantities. Say.. first discount at 500# and then next discount at 2000#, next discount at semi-trailer load.

I think you would go broke/run out of time trying to raise corn to feed a small flock of birds once you shucked and cobbed it. then roller cracked it.

If you had a big operation.. you might have a go at it.

Soundguy

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Hey Rob...John,PA

12-16-2004 05:39:00




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
Shelling corn by hand is a pretty slow process. I spent many an hour doing that chore on Saturday mornings back on the family farm. But then, I was only 5 to 7 yrs. old. Kept me from gitt'n into trouble.

The corn sheller is still around. Probably needs its red and white pin stripped original finish restored, oor atleast "refreshed". I seen them from time to time being sold at public auctions. Generally bring too much money for any one who ever operated one. Mostly "farm" museums buy them.

In your locale, I would consider fruit trees. You can have 10 yrs. write-offs because that is about how long it takes for the trees to produce enough fruit to have an income from the enterprise.

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12-16-2004 05:41:35




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Hey Rob...John,PA, 12-16-2004 05:39:00  
With fruit comes "wine-mak'n". There are a lot of people these days that just drive from one wine-tasting experience to another.



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Bruce (VA)

12-15-2004 17:06:12




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
I'm sure one of the folks who raises ducks or chickens will come along shortly with more "recent" info than I have, because it's been 45 years since I've had anything to do with chickens, but the food was always bought & the relatives raised plenty of corn & had the exact same corn sheller you are talking about. The corn was for the hogs & mules. The chicken feed was called cracked corn; came in 50 lb bags, or scratch or mash, which was feed to the chicks, as I recall. If you are only planning on raising a dozen or so birds, you will spend more time raising, shucking & shelling corn than you would ever make in egg money.

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Brian S, NE

12-15-2004 15:29:30




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
My grand parents had one of those hand shellers. When we were younger (7-10). I was turning the handle and shelling corn with one of my brothers. For whatever reason the dummy put his hand in to free a stuck ear and nearly lost a couple of fingers. After surgery everything worked out. Boy that scared the stuff out of me. We never did see the sheller again. Don't know what grandpa did with it.

Brian S, NE
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Rob N VA

12-15-2004 15:08:39




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 Re: impliments/small scale farming continued in reply to Rob N VA, 12-15-2004 15:06:38  
Most importantly, can I make a good excuse to buy a plow and disk?!?! I only want to plant enough to feed a dozen or so fowl, and I imagine I will do most of it by hand. Thanks again!!!



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