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O.T. Mechanics as a career

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Rob N VA

12-29-2004 18:56:34




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Thanks to all for indulging me another O.T. question. I have searched the net, but can't find much information, and I know that you folks here will be able to contribute some valuable insight. I know I have posted a lot of O.T. questions lately, and I truly respect and appreciate your help and patience. That being said.....
I am looking into enrolling in the Marine Mechanics institute in Orlando Florida. The straight answer I am really unable to find is how much money one can expect to earn as a boat mechanic. I asked one of the people in admissions and he gave me a very optimistic answer, but I want a realistic answer from folks that have real solid expierence in the mechanic field. All of you here have my utmost respect as mechanics (wheater it be hobby or professional) and I would greatly appreciate any insight as to how lucrative a career as a mechanic will be. I am targeting MMI, to become a marine technician, but I welcome any insight as to other mechanics fields, and how lucrative they are. Thank you all in advance for your sharing of knowledge!---Rob

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Doug MO

12-30-2004 19:53:29




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
For what it's worth, for a few years I was a deckhand, then a tow boat pilot (still have my 200 ton master's license)in St. Louis on the Mississippi. A diesel mechanic working on one of our engines told me about the time he got on a 10,500 hp towboat in St. Louis to rebuild one of their generators. The boat was headed south and the mechanic was supposed to get off in Cairo Illinois after he finished the generator, and rent a car and drive back to St. Louis. Anyway, after making way south on the river, one of the tow's main engines went down and the mechanic's employer agreed to keep the mechanic on board until he finished the main engine rebuild and the generator rebuild. . . The captain came down to the engine room to inform the mechanic he was stuck on the boat. The crew really got a kick out of that. The mechanic didn't get off the boat until NEW ORLEANS a week or two later. ACBL flew him back to St. Louis. Something to keep in mind - don't go to work on a boat that's moving, you don't know when you can get off. There aren't a lot of places on the Mississippi that a tow can drop you off when you're ready to go home. Doug.

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Eric Rylander

12-30-2004 15:05:16




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
I started out as a helper-gopher in a marine diesel shop back in 1985 and it's become quite a good career. I would highly reccomend going into diesel for the simple reason that we can't (nor can other shops) find mechanics! Trust me, as long as you want to live on the coast, there is employment to be had in the field!

It's a specialized field- 90 percent of our work is on LARGE pleasurecraft (big yachts) and when we hire ex truck and equipment mechanics and they don't understand you can't bring a greasy, rusty metal tool box and slam it down on a teak wood deck, or trample grease through the Itlaian designed main cabin's white carpeting. They don't work out.

I tried going into stern drive for awhile and personally I'd rather work on a big project on one large boat doing in frame overhauls on a pair of diesels getting paid by the hour (nearly no flat rate, all the pay is hourly with OT over 8 per day) than working 15 small gas boat jobs getting paid some rediculous flat rate that does not account for rusted fastenters and inaccesible machinery.

I have gotten to travel a great deal with this profession and have been to some interesting places.

If you are a hard worker, know your stuff you will find work.

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Bill in Orono, MN

12-30-2004 08:16:24




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
Hello,

Your interest in marine mechanics can serve you very well. However one must look at a few things. First, anyone can enroll in a technical school and get a degree in mechanics. This fact keeps initial wages low. To move up the ladder one needs to specialize and develop into a business man. For, say the first 3
-5 years I would work in the marine industry as you have indicated as your interest. Work on small, medium or large mechanical systems. Observe how the business of marine mechanics works. What sectors of your industry seem stable, which seem to be growing, and which seem to have difficulty? Never turn work down. By year 5 you will know what opportunities interest you and which are most likely to succeed. Check back in 5 years.....

Up in the "not as snowy as you'd think" Minnesota, many marine mechanics (mostly watercraft under 30') work the spring through early fall. Then they either take a vacation and do side work or they transition into snowmobiles and more ATV work.

Working your way up, and/or starting your own business is really the only way to make substantial money. You will likely balance your ambition with personal commitments in time. It is much more difficult to start a business or move around when you have a child in school or a spouse with a job.

The key to success in a service industry is customer service. Take care of that and people will beat a path to your door.

Good luck.

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Charlie in MO

12-30-2004 11:16:37




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Bill in Orono, MN, 12-30-2004 08:16:24  
Bill's Post obviously comes from experience is Right On!
I've worked in the marine field off and on most of my life with the rest in automotive/heavy equipment industry. But the thing I saw most of all in the marine field is that the real money is in the Self Employed Mode. Shops get from $60 to $85 per hour for their mechanics to fix IO and outboards... you might get $12 to $20 working for someone else.
The other thing I ran into was that specialty niche, like Jet Boats and Flat Bottoms (V-Drive). People who own these boats have big money in them and are high profile, ego driven. (I was there at one point in my life.) Money was no object if it you could push another horse or two out of your Big Block. What I learned was that it was an ongoing battle to keep them running on the edge of blowing themselves apart as they were as close to race boats as they could get without painting numbers on them. Jet pumps and V's are also used throughout the industry in houseboat and pleasure craft and are a niche worth pursuing that most don't have the training to repair. Boats were always cleaner and much more fun (especially the Test Drive!) to work on than something like a D-8 Cat at top operating temperature. Specialize and become good at what you do, the rest will come to you. As stated... Take care of your customers and they will take care of you.
Good luck,
Charlie

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lakeport rob

12-30-2004 05:43:48




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
i got out of the coast guard 6 years ago. they sent me to all sorts of schools for marine mechanics. i was a boat mechanic (mk) at a small boat station on lake st clair (michigan). when i got out i went to work for a couple shops. the problem was two fold. off season (thanksgiving to easter) offered no unemployment benefits(cant collect on a known seasonal job). the other problem was benefits. i had job offers from 6 different marinas and the best any of them could do was major medical while working no offseason. the money is good though. i started out at 15/hr 6 years ago. my buddy stuck with it and makes 22/hr. lots of overtime in the spring and fall and a fun job. if it gets cold in the winter (ice) it's seasonal. dont know how va's winters are. if you started your own shop it would probably be worth your while. marine propulsion is straightforward. the systems arent much more difficult than you n series. on teh i/o's fuel injection is just starting to come into play. most everything out there is carbs (except for high end outboards, not fun). sorry for rambling on just a bit of info from an ex-boat wrench.

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Mike S

12-30-2004 04:37:15




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
In this day and age, you make more money if you can find some speciality and be the best in that. Example. A friend of mine's husband only works on Corvettes. He makes over 100k a year. He knows more about Corvettes than any dealer and he actually gets lots of referrals from dealers. He has a small shop, he gives an estimate and sticks to it. The car is ready when he says it is and he guarantees his work. Maybe if you specialized in some exotic boats, you could charge more. Good luck, decent marine mechanics are few and far between here in N. GA on our lakes.

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DUCK

12-29-2004 22:59:33




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
Not to state the obvious but one thing to consider is how many others are doing it in the same area you intend to start.
As is any field an over crowded field with equally qualified mechanics can only slice the pie so thin.
Up here a good marine mechanic is pretty sought after. A couple of fellows specialize in the smaller troller engines and do a booming business. I'd think a good marine mechanic could pull down 50k here after becoming established for a year or two-especially if he is working for himself-good and has low overhead. If your working for someone else the pay is lower-hours longer and rewards less.
DUCK

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twopop

12-29-2004 20:08:26




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 Re: O.T. Mechanics as a career in reply to Rob N VA, 12-29-2004 18:56:34  
I believe that it doesnt matter what area of mechanics you go for,the wages should or will be about the same.if your working for a bussiness,you should be making about 16 to 20 an hour.at least here in the southwest,wages may be higher on the east coast



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