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Rob N VA

10-29-2005 19:03:32




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I am in the process....still....of sanding down the hood of my 1950 8n. Got the whole thing about completly bare metal. I have been reading on the paint and bodywork section about differnt paints and it is all greek to me. I have never painted anything that dosen't involve a rattle can. My tractor looked horrible before with its brush paint job and welded on dog legs, so any paint job will suit me just fine so long as it dosen't look worse. From what i am reading, TSC paint is junk and hardners are lethal without expensive breathing aparatus. Is there an inexpensive alternative to a guy with a 80 dollar sears spray gun and an itchy trigger finger? Also, what is so awful about TSC paint? Can I use rattle can primer, or is it junk too? Thanks for the input seeing as how i am on the wrong forum and all.---Rob

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lonestarjeff

10-30-2005 10:52:21




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to Rob N VA, 10-29-2005 19:03:32  
Rob:

I did quite a bit of research before I painted my 8N this past spring. Read alot of posts in the "paint & bodywork" forum, too.

There's nothing wrong w/ TSC paint, it's just an older technology(alkyd), about the same as the original factory paint. If you want to step up a notch, technology-wize, look at Tisco or F/NH brand paint. It is an acrylic paint, more UV resistant & a little glossier.

That's about as hightech as you can go w/o adding catalist(hardener). Both of the above are more scratch-resistant & glossy if you DO add hardener, but you don't have to for a nice lookin' job.

Keep in mind, though, if you use alkyd(like TSC)paint w/o hardener it needs about a month of fair weather to reach max cure, 'til then you can just about knock paint off w/ your thumbnail.

I used TSC paint(Ford Red)w/ hardener on the bulk of the tractor & Tisco paint(Ford Red)w/ hardener on the separate red parts. Tisco(Ford medium gray)on the sheet metal. Looks great for a work tractor & the reds matched up fine(the Tisco is a little slicker).

I'm happy w/ the quality of my paint job on the red, but the sheet metal would be better if I did it again. I figured out that spray gun about the time I finished up.

There's no way to tell how you'll react to using hardener in the paint, it ranges from no ill effects to SEVERE respiratory distress, depending on the person. For instance, I & others on this forum have used it(outdoors)w/ no problems, but the next time could be completely different. Very unpredictable.

Jeff

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6N's Short

10-30-2005 07:35:00




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to Rob N VA, 10-29-2005 19:03:32  
Rob, I have a 2N out on the driveway that is my project/charity case tractor. As I was working on it last spring (when I still had a spare minute here and there) I would take certain parts like the air cleaner and other small parts and strip them and practice painting on them with TSC rattle cans. Primed them real well, put three coats of color on them and then hit them with a couple of coats of clear. They shine real nice and have endured four months of direct sun and other weather. Only problem was that the paint scratches right off if you hit against anything on reinstall. Don't know if it has gotten any harder over the summer but there is no rust anymore (yet). If I scratch it I just hit it again with one of the cans in the garage. I might splurge for better paint done professionally on the sheet metal but not on the engine and frame unless I decide it will be a parade tractor. Since that is NOT going to happen I guess a working tractor should have paint that can be touched up without a lot of headaches. IMHO

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duey

10-30-2005 06:28:14




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to Rob N VA, 10-29-2005 19:03:32  
Hey Rob, I sprayed my 2N with Rustoleum grey and as I was setting up, I sloshed some boiled linseed oil in the spray gun. Seems to improve flow out and I sure have no heartburn with the hardness of the finished product. That was at least 3 years ago and it is holding very well. Rustoleum is widely available and not too expensive. There is no "wrong" way to paint your tractor, just some colors are less 'popular'!!!!! As long as you are happy with it, that's what counts. Have Fun, duey

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RustyAL

10-29-2005 20:05:33




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to Rob N VA, 10-29-2005 19:03:32  
The quality of paint, primer, and hardener will determine the outcome. Preparing a surface and painting is time consuming so you should get it right. At a recent tractor show there was one tractor paint job that really looked great. The man said he used cross fire but I can not remember the brand. Use hardener, good paint and primer to match the paint you buy. Sand the primer with 600 grit then use a tack cloth.

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John (TR)

10-29-2005 21:40:45




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to RustyAL, 10-29-2005 20:05:33  
Everyone has an opinion, bottom line it's your tractor. Some folks are happpy with Rust Oleum Sunrise red and the they have an olive? that's nearly dead on for the gray. Without the hardener it will take a little longer to harden up and may not be as tough to chemicals but won't be as dangerous to paint. Even without the hardener spring for at least the 1/2 face mask from 3m at most paint stores with organic filters Approx 35.00. I've used a brand called Van Sickle with hardeners and have been pretty happy. Next step up is acrylic enamels approx 100+ per gallon, then urethanes.

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Dan

10-30-2005 04:54:33




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to John (TR), 10-29-2005 21:40:45  
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Here is my tractor painted with the Rustoleum Sunrise Red and the correct "olive" grey as you say. Not too bad for a work tractor pulling my brush hog now at my 42 acres of heaven. Like John said - it is all about what YOU want out of your paint job.

Good luck,
Dan

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Dan

10-30-2005 04:54:06




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to John (TR), 10-29-2005 21:40:45  
Here is my tractor painted with the Rustoleum Sunrise Red and the correct "olive" grey as you say. Not too bad for a work tractor pulling my brush hog now at my 42 acres of heaven. Like John said - it is all about what YOU want out of your paint job.

Good luck,
Dan



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herb storrs

10-30-2005 18:10:52




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 Re: Tractor painting in reply to Dan, 10-30-2005 04:54:06  
I'm pretty sure that Tisco is alkyd too. Can't remember where I saw it, maybe in the Tisco catalog.

Most rattle cans seem to be alkyd. Not sure about the NH paint - anyone know for sure?



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