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Installing thermometer?

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rob 8N11071 KS

05-29-2001 11:07:57




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Is there an easy place to install a thermometer so I can constantly monitor engine temp? Like some sort of generic NAPA part that goes in the radiator hose? I'd like to have a dash readout. (I know, heresy for originality buffs.)




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Terry

05-30-2001 18:25:57




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 Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 05-29-2001 11:07:57  
Rob, I bought a good quality Temp gage, and had the reducer nut for the sensor soldered into the top tank of my radiator, and used the mounting bracket for the gage, and bolted it to an existing bolt for the voltage regulator on the right side of the dash. It works great, and I didn't have to drill any holes in my sheet metal.



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Check this. Larry 8N75381

05-29-2001 12:48:29




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 Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 05-29-2001 11:07:57  
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The Kerosene burners HAD to have a temperature gage. I'd bet that it was put in the head where most heads have a flat boss - same location as my Uncles sensor is located. In all likelyhood you have that boss on your head. How comfortable are you with drilling and (especially) tapping?!? Or you could get a compentent shop to do the job for you.

My $0.02 - which is all my suggestion is worth. :-)

Regards,
Larry

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rob 8N11071 KS

05-29-2001 12:59:11




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 Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to Check this. Larry 8N75381, 05-29-2001 12:48:29  
Drilling and tapping my brand new head doesn't excite me.

Interesting-- I have that hole in my dash and it's is a factory hole.



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Larry 8N75381

05-29-2001 13:15:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 05-29-2001 12:59:11  
ARE you SURE it is factory made?!?!?

I put gages in the dash of my Ford 3000. I used a hole punch like the electricians use. When they are used correctly, I defy you to differentiate between one and one punched at a factory. The reason I know my Uncles was not factory done, is that I can see a small burr that was probably left from a hole saw - the most readily available thing to make a hole that size.

Is your hole in the exact same location? I have heard rumors that some dealers put in gages - could that be the most common location they used??

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rob 8N11071 KS

05-29-2001 13:25:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to Larry 8N75381, 05-29-2001 13:15:34  
I am not sure how I would know for SURE that it was factory. It looks clean to me.



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Larry 8N75381

05-29-2001 16:01:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 05-29-2001 13:25:26  
Yea, if it was done by a professional machinist, neither one of us could, nor could anyone else for that matter. I'd like to see a picture of yours, since yours is the only other one that I know of like mine.

Did I tell you some time that I have 8N11840, just some 769 units newer than yours?

Regards,
Larry



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rob 8N11071 KS

05-30-2001 06:28:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to Larry 8N75381, 05-29-2001 16:01:47  
I'll try to remember to get a picture.



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JerryU

05-29-2001 11:33:06




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 Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 05-29-2001 11:07:57  
There are a number of ways. You can pull the drain cock out of the side of the block and install the sensor there or you can solder a fitting into the upper radiator tank just above the core or I have heard of a way to pull a head bolt and put one in - not sure of this one or you can make a tee and cut the upper radiator hose and install it--which is what I did. You'll find a particular size copper water line, I think 1 1/4" fits inside the hose. Get a tee, preferably one with a smaller fitting on the side of the tee. Sweat a couple of short pieces of copper pipe into each end of the straight legs of the tee so you can put the hose on each of these and clamp it. Bush the 90 degree leg of the tee down so you can sweat in a 1/2" female IPT fitting. The sensor will screw into this with various adapters provided.

I have also heard that some have taken the sensor bulb and stuck it down along side the radiator hose connection to the radiator (maybe wrapped with a little teflon tape) and clamped it. Seems to me it would leak.

I like the tee setup because it is "non destructive" and gives you a true temperature reading ahead of the thermostat, like a factory theremostat would in a car.

IMHO.

JU

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rob 8N11071 KS

05-29-2001 11:38:07




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 Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to JerryU, 05-29-2001 11:33:06  
I am thinking the drain petcock idea would be the cleanest (and non destructive). Do I just buy a sensor and gauge set at the auto parts store? Do the sensors come in different sizes so I can get one to fit my petcock hole?



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JerryU

05-29-2001 11:44:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Installing thermometer? in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 05-29-2001 11:38:07  
They usually come with a bunch of adapters. If that is the route you want to go, I would drain the antifreeze, pull the drain cock and take it with you to the parts store. Also measure how much depth you have between the block and any obstruction inside (I don't recall how much clearance you have) because some of these capillary bulbs are rather long.

JU



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