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OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed

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Kenster

07-12-2007 13:05:31




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I've recently plowed up about an acre and a half surrounding our house. Plowed it twice. Have disked it twice- both directions. It's about 99 percent vegetation free. Soil sample came back suggesting 10 pounds of lime per 1000 square feet. So, that's 630 pounds of lime.

Along with 10 bags of 13-13-13 fertilizer and 20 pounds of bermuda seed.

My plan is to apply the lime first and disc it in. Then add the fertilizer. Then the grass seed. The farm service where I bought this stuff didn't think it was necessary to disc in the fertilizer so I guess I'll spread the grass seed right on top of the fertilizer. Then I'm going to drag some chain link fence to put just a tiny bit of soil over the seed.

I'm borrowing a friend's three point hopper/spreader to apply these items.

I have not done this before and am seeking any advise or suggestions for any phase of this operation.

Thanks.

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Kenster

07-12-2007 14:39:38




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Dunk, 07-12-2007 13:05:31  
Re: dragging the soil after spreading the seed. We have extremely sandy soil. Does that make a difference? Everyone local (70 miles west of Houston TX) including the seed and fertilizer guy, the County Agriculture Extention Agent, and neighbors with the same soil conditions, all suggest the same thing-- dragging something very light (chain link fence, old box spring) over the seed, just enough to toss a little dirt on it, as well as push the seed down into the soil a little.

I wish I had done this a month ago. We had rain all but six or so days out of the last six weeks. Stopped raining about four days ago and the sandy soil is like sugar again. But there suppose to be a good chance of showers every day next week. So... I need to get 'er done and hope the rains keep coming. Some of the far corners are 200 feet from the nearest water faucet. Fortunately, the water table is deep, the well is strong, and I've got about 500 feet of good hose!

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BCnT

07-12-2007 17:00:43




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 well howdy neighbor... in reply to Kenster, 07-12-2007 14:39:38  
sounds like youre in my neck of tha woods...Sheridan here...iffn you got same poor dirt i got dont worry about puttin too much lime on...i dont think its possible round 'chere ;)



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Kenster

07-12-2007 14:15:47




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Dave_N_Ga, 07-12-2007 13:05:31  

Ross Pugh(NC) said: (quoted from post at 16:21:31 07/12/07) Kenster, 1 acre=43,560 sq. ft>1/2 acre=21,780 sq. ft. Divide 21,780 sq.ft. by 1,000=21.78 X 10=217.8 lbs of lime req'd. How did you come up with 630 pounds, sounds like the lime supplier did your figures, right? He is in the business to sell all he can.


Ross, the soil test was done by Laboratory at Texas A&M University, no slouches in agricultural science. Having said that, you are right on with the numbers, it's just that you misread my post. It says I have an "acre and a half" not a half acre. My bride and I actually took a hundred foot tape and measured it all out. Right at 63000 square feet. (slightly less than 1.5 acres.) 630 pounds using your formula. Tripling your numbers puts you right in the ball park.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

07-12-2007 15:17:16




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Kenster, 07-12-2007 14:15:47  
Sounds like you got it under control, just don,t go too heavy on the straw mulch, as most people do.



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BillM (OH)

07-12-2007 13:43:21




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Kenster, 07-12-2007 13:05:31  
Firstly, an acre and a half is about 64,000 square feet, so 630 pounds sounds about right.
Next, I always use a few bags of sand in the broadcaster mixed in well with the grass seed to make sure I don't run out before all the ground is covered at least once - 20 pounds of seed is not much....
Last, dragging after seeding with most anything to cover the seed a bit (not too deep) is necessary, so that's a good plan.
Good luck - and get lots more rain than we have been getting here in SE Ohio.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

07-12-2007 14:00:25




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to BillM (OH), 07-12-2007 13:43:21  
Bill, I respectully disagree with the necessity to cover the seeds by dragging over themto coover them . These seeds are about the size of tobacco seeds or smaller. That is why only 20 pounds are required. 20 pounds of bermuda grass seed is a bunch of seeds. Those seeds aare so small a water sprinkler will wash enuf soil on them to germinate easily. In fact the seeds will fall into the lowest points on the ground and will be covered with water and soil during the sprinkling.

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BillM (OH)

07-12-2007 18:57:46




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 07-12-2007 14:00:25  
Ross: Since I have no (nada,zilch,zippo) experience with seeding bermuda, I defer to you. I generally lightly cover all the stuff I plant, but have never seeded bermuda (and likely never will).



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Ross Pugh(NC)

07-12-2007 13:38:09




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Kenster, 07-12-2007 13:05:31  
Kenster, you are correct about mixing the lime in to the soil like that and fertilizer on topbut if you want the bermuda grass seed to come up at all do not drag anything or try to cover the seed with anything. Bermuda grass seed s are very tiny and any seed only needs to be covered about twice the depth of the seed diameter. Just sow it with a hand seeder, water, and mulch with straw, just enuf to shade the seedbed a little but not block out the light. The watering will put enuf soil over those small seeds to take care of the germination. The best way to get bermuda grass is to plug it and let it spread. Bermuda grass seeds are not easy to get to cocme up. Good luck.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

07-12-2007 13:21:31




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Kenster, 07-12-2007 13:05:31  
Kenster, 1 acre=43,560 sq. ft>1/2 acre=21,780 sq. ft. Divide 21,780 sq.ft. by 1,000=21.78 X 10=217.8 lbs of lime req'd. How did you come up with 630 pounds, sounds like the lime supplier did your figures, right? He is in the business to sell all he can.



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Ross Pugh(NC)

07-12-2007 13:49:17




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 07-12-2007 13:21:31  
Kenster, disregard my previous post about the incorrect figures, after rereading your post I see you said 1 1/2 acre , not 1/2 acre. Multiply my 217.8 X 3=653.4 pounds. Close to what you had figured, Sorry, I misread your post as a half acre.



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BCnT

07-12-2007 13:14:15




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 Re: OT: Sort of... Applying Lime, Fertilizer, Bermuda seed in reply to Kenster, 07-12-2007 13:05:31  
you need to mix that seed with something inert or yer gonna run out before you get done.



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