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Rob Tamworth

08-24-2007 11:17:42




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Will an 8N run a #9 Massey baler? If not, does anyone know what baler it will run? Thanks in advance.




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Rob Tamworth

08-25-2007 09:52:46




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
Thank you to everyone for their stories and advice. Thanks to Ed S., now I know that I can put up my own hay next summer.



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Ed S. (IL)

08-25-2007 06:58:59




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
I baled three cuts this year with the following behind a '50 frontmount 8N:

7' New Idea sickle bar mower - 3pt. mounted, PTO driven (sorry, no pic)

3pt. PTO driven Dearborn rake

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New Holland 68 Hayliner baler, PTO driven, hay rack behind the baler

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I have about 10 acres of alfalfa/grass (and weeds), most of which is on the flat, but part of which is on a slight grade.

The N runs the baler just fine on the flat, and with fairly light windrows (compared to what you'd run with a larger tractor/baler). My first two cuts were very light, and I baled in 2nd or 3rd gear in order to keep the chamber packed full. The 3rd cut was heavier, so I ended up using 2nd or 1st in the really heavy sections. If you hit a big wad and the baler starts to bog down, you have to bounce the clutch to go into neutral so the tractor doesn't stall, let it clear, and then bounce back into gear (repeat until through the heavy stuff). Sounds scarier than it is.

As for working the tractor hard, it's working, but no harder than pulling a cultivator or 2-bottom plow. I do have to plan my path, though, so I am pulling a relatively empty hay rack on the slight grade - it's a bit much to try to bale uphill with a loaded rack...

So, yes, you can do it with an N. Your experience will be better with a bigger baler/tractor combination, but if you are only doing a few acres on relatively flat ground, it will work just fine.

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Briar Creek Stables

08-24-2007 17:00:16




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
I have to agree with Old. 8N's are excellent for pulling a rake, but not meant for a baler. I tried it once with a New Holland 68, not good. Even on the flat that tractor could barely run it and forget the hills.



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JMOR

08-24-2007 15:42:12




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
I put up many a bale with a JD-214 behind an 8N before I got a bigger tractor and put the 8N to the more proper job of pulling a small rake. My land is 'flat as a pancake' and this was clearly too much for the 8N and was really hard on it during those years.
Went with what I had, learned, moved on.



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Ken in Arkansas

08-24-2007 13:17:59




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
We ran an AC Roto Baler for many years with our 8N. Even in hilly country it had enough power and weight to handle the load.



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cargocult

08-24-2007 12:21:04




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
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Find a Old AC Rotobaler. (There are many on EBAY) The N will do well with it! I know this, because I spent MANY HOURS baling with the RotoBaler! When I was larger han I am in the pic, hehehe. It will also run any baler with a aux engine. This has come up before & will come up again. (I wouldn't wanta try to use one of them newfangled Big Round Balers, tho!!) hehehe! CC, who has BTDT!!

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BillM (OH)

08-24-2007 21:08:18




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to cargocult, 08-24-2007 12:21:04  
We baled with an AC round baler behind our 8N, but as I remember, you had to stop to let'er wind up the bale and kick'er out. Worked much better when we got the 861 with live PTO.....



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cargocult again

08-25-2007 05:49:20




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to BillM (OH), 08-24-2007 21:08:18  
We baled with an AC round baler behind our 8N, but as I remember, you had to stop to let'er wind up the bale and kick'er out.


Yep. One clutch & kick outta gear & re-clutch 4 every bale! These were designed to be pulled by AC tractors, which had a way to stop the forward progress of the tractor without disrupting the pto power! But, considering the alternatives..haystacks & pitchforks, hehehe! CC, who remembers the good old days!!

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GB in MT.

08-25-2007 06:04:09




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to cargocult again, 08-25-2007 05:49:20  


I remember!!!! Stacker pushpulls, (4x4 mil. amo carrier for power), hay sweeps,( pu trucks with the bodies off for power), Hay rakes, pulled behind model As with the steering turned around backwards, so ya could turn faster, and shorter. Oh ya, Then the two guys up on the stack, hope the other guy did not stab his foot with a tine of a pitch fork.

Being a 13yr. old, with the job of Mower forman, hoping to get the crew to listen to ya.!!!

Oh yeh!!! I remember the good old days.!!!???:

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old

08-24-2007 12:05:18




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 Re: Baling with an 8N in reply to Rob Tamworth, 08-24-2007 11:17:42  
An 8N isn't really enough tractor to run any baler. Figure it this way. A 8N comes in around 2500lbs and most balers empty will come in around the same weight so then you have a tractor with brakes that will just work for the tractor now add another 2500lbs behind and you have something that will be hard to control. Now yes it can be done and has been done but its all an 8N will want to pull a baler and that with the baler have its own engine run it off the PTO you have even more problems then if you try . Plus for the most part its just not safe to do so either unless your land is flat as a pancake. Shoot I will not try to pull one behind my 841 and its almost twice the tractor but again to light for pulling a baler well

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