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Painting over pitted metal

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Steve-Maine

08-08-2006 02:45:51




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I am geting ready to paint a brush chipper that has a lot of badly pitted spots. I will be sandblasting machine first. Should I prime first before putty body putty or put body putty over the bare metal. I don't want it to to flake off as it gets a lot of virbration when chipping brush.
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B-maniac

08-08-2006 19:07:20




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 Re: Painting over pitted metal in reply to Steve-Maine, 08-08-2006 02:45:51  
Know exactly what you are talking about. Our rebuild dept. at Morbark does quite a few of these that have huge rust pits all over them. Blast,clean of sand residue and fill with regular body filler. It wont fall out.D/A smooth with 180 and hit with 2 coats of high build 2 part surfacer to fill and level over the blast profile.Hit it with scotchbrite or 240 grit DA and paint. After all, these are just chippers and will have the *ell beat out of them.Good Luck. (hope you are charging enough for these chippers.we get between $3000 and $5000 depending on size and type of paint they want)

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CNKS

08-08-2006 14:47:09




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 Re: Painting over pitted metal in reply to Steve-Maine, 08-08-2006 02:45:51  
Since you have vibration, use a Bondo type two part filler. I reserve the metal glaze type products for shallow pits, and I would consider them less durable than the bondo types, but I have no proof of that. Some people prefer to use bondo-type products over epoxy primer, mainly as a rust prevention step, but it is really designed to use over bare metal. And, I have never used Bondo on high vibration surfaces either. It will take a lot of sanding, I don't know how big your unit is. On small areas I sometimes use JB weld and smooth it out with body filler, JB is very hard to sand but it works. Sprayable filler is ok, I have never used it, it will take 2.0+ mm tip to work right, and I sure wouldn't use it in my topcoat gun. Surfacer, regardless of the brand will not fill deep pits, unless you use many applications. As Brad stated cover it with epoxy primer, a cheaper PPG version is PPG Omni MP 170. Less than half the cost of the DP ones. Only significant disadvantage I know of is the 3 day topcoat window, as opposed to 7 day for the DP series, that has never been a problem for me. You do not need any etching products, since you will sandblast it.

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Brad_bb

08-08-2006 08:17:46




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 Re: Painting over pitted metal in reply to Steve-Maine, 08-08-2006 02:45:51  
It partially depends on the particular products you are using. I use PPG DPLF Epoxy sealer primer. I use evercoat Z-Grip and metal glaze fillers. These can be applied to clean bare metal or over the Epoxy sealer primer. Another option is using a sprayable filler. It"s the same basic material as the spreadable filler only in sprayable form. I use Rust Defender which also is an etching product. It can be applied over Epoxy or to bare metal. Just watch the overspray. Since it is etching, you don"t want the overspray getting on your car or house etc.

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bill mar

08-08-2006 04:59:53




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 Re: Painting over pitted metal in reply to Steve-Maine, 08-08-2006 02:45:51  
Body filler is designed to be applied directly to bare metal.If the pits are not too deep consider using a primer surfacer. Bill M.



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