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Kelly C

02-22-2005 22:03:04

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Wow building hay racks is alot of work. Here is the 2nd of 3 I have to do this winter. I used white oak this time. Found a saw mill 1/2 mile from my place. Never even knew it was there. Cost for the lumber was about $330. $30 more than using treated lumber, but much heavier. A few people had asked about plans for hay racks. I havent seen any. I did make some web pages showing the construction step by step. I will post that to my web site as soon as I can get back into it. The computer gods havent let me into my web site for a couple weeks now. Maybe tomorow, I have a request into my ISP for the info. Seems they have been out to lunch for a wile now.

Here is my website. Click here!!!

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thurlow

02-23-2005 13:42:32

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2005 22:03:04

Great picture, Kelly; question comes to mind. Almost no one locally still bales little bales, but there are many, many trailers (y'all probably call 'em wagons everywhere except "here") around to haul grain, cotton, big round bales, etc, etc. From what I've seen and read.....on here.....everyone seems to prefer auto-type steering front axles; is there a reason? Locally, it's almost entirely 5th-wheel type. I suppose there may be a little less twist/torque of the bed over the front axle with yours than over the other, but have never known it to be a problem with the king-pin. My experience.....limited with auto-type steering....is that they tend to wander, whereas a 5th wheel will track true no matter the speed. Just curious.....

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KIP

02-23-2005 17:55:48

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to thurlow, 02-23-2005 13:42:32

Where I grew up (NM), we just called them flat bed trailers. Summer time they were used for baled alfalfa, fall we put sides on and used them for cotton. We had wood floors, but rest of the trailer was all steel. I never heard the term hay rack.

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Leroy

02-23-2005 12:35:25

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2005 22:03:04

When I was growing up you couldn't give away a rack made of oak because of too much weight, that difference between the oak and cottenwood, the wood of choise, would mean that on a 16" bed you could haul 20 more bales than the oak without overloading the gear or tractor. I had mostly 16' with one 18' and if I was building new now I would build only 14' long and 7' wide and have 3 wagons of that size instead of two of your giant wagons

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Kelly C

02-23-2005 12:55:39

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Leroy, 02-23-2005 12:35:25

I do 100 bales per rack, 50 pound bales = about 2.5 ton+ rack 1000 pounds maybe ? 3 ton for a 6 ton gear. Should be fine.

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Leroy

02-25-2005 04:01:38

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Kelly C, 02-23-2005 12:55:39

125 bale of 14x18x36" about 50# on 6 1/2' x 16' bed on 2 tone gear, have the gear bought new in 46 with same bed now yet and that bed was the same one used on my great grandfathers high wood wheel wagon i still have and when the wood wagons were still in Wards catalog they were rated at 4000#, I still have and yse for other things now as I no longer make hay several of then with different conversions done over the years, as for a 6 ton gear that was heavier than made then as a 953 John Deere was a heavy wagon and only a 4 ton gear. A flat wagon for hay one person should be able to pull it by hand in the field without any trouble, if it was to heavy for that then it was a forget wagon, and we have put up 175 of those bales on light homemade wagon made out of 41-48 Ford-Merc. car front axles with weight no problemand I still have that wagon also. As of today I think I have 11 flat wagons

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ShepFL

02-23-2005 09:57:11

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2005 22:03:04

Nice looking wagons. I have a PDF file for making wagons if you email me.

Maybe Kelly you can post it on your website for others.

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ShepFL

02-23-2005 09:55:04

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2005 22:03:04

Nice looking wagons. I have a PDF file for making wagons if you email me.

Maybe Kelly you can post it on your website for others.

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Kelly c

02-23-2005 10:59:19

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to ShepFL, 02-23-2005 09:55:04

heck yea! I wiil get you when i get home.

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Iowa Jim

02-23-2005 05:46:55

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Re: 2nd hay rack done. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2005 22:03:04

Way to go Kelly!!!

I finished building two hay racks this weekend. One was a 20 footer and the other 18.5 foot. I used treated lumber for mine this year as I couldn't finda a good source of oak in my area. The treated works for me now, but I would prefer to have oak. Maybe if I ever move back home to Indiana....

On my racks I us 2 x 10 x 8s and run them longitudinally (perpendicular to direction of sills). I also build my sills our of 2x10 stock and laminate three layers together with glue and screws. That gives me a sill that is roughly 5 x 9.

Jim

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Iowa Jim

02-23-2005 09:16:06

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Hay Rack Sills in reply to Iowa Jim, 02-23-2005 05:46:55

Here is a photo of the sills I made for my hay racks.

Jim

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Kelly C

02-23-2005 09:24:18

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Re: Hay Rack Sills in reply to Iowa Jim, 02-23-2005 09:16:06

I was originally going to use 2x6x8 going accross like you did.I was thinking that I would not need the 4x4 cross members. After I priced it out. It was almost $70 cheaper to use 9 4x4 cross members and 1x decking going long ways. Strange.

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Iowa Jim

02-23-2005 06:00:45

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20 Foot Hay Rack Photo in reply to Iowa Jim, 02-23-2005 05:46:55

Here is a photo of one of the 20 foot hayracks that I built last winter.

Jim

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RustyFarmall

02-23-2005 07:04:52

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Re: 20 Foot Hay Rack Photo in reply to Iowa Jim, 02-23-2005 06:00:45

From a guy who has loaded more than his share of bales onto a hayrack, both of you have done excellent work. Take care of them and you will have them for as long as you need.

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