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chris thomas

03-26-2001 14:41:31

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i got my inlaws 8n up to to axle in mud i have heard of a method using logs or pipe chained to the
tires to remove tractor, but my simple mind can't
piture this

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Snowplow

03-28-2001 14:16:44

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Call a tow truck. They can lift it right out. I've been there. It's safer and will not damage the tractor. It might run you $25.

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Pat Williams

03-27-2001 11:57:54

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Dont let this happen!

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I got 4WD duals and I can go anywhere.....(grin)

03-27-2001 17:53:49

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Re: Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to Pat Williams, 03-27-2001 11:57:54

I remember that, understand they "fixed it" and put it back to work in a different field..... .Dell

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Charlie in TX

03-27-2001 07:15:52

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Chaining something to the tires can be dangerous. By the time you do all the work to chain timbers to your tire you could pull it out with a come-along. I have pulled mine out many times with a 2 ton come-along. First time I left the motor running and it would sink in the mud (more like quike sand) from the viabration. With the motor of it worked much better.

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Andy - Hammond, LA

03-27-2001 05:25:27

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Hey - where are you located? I have a hopped up 4x4 with a 10,000lb winch. BTW, never use chains or big iron hooks to pull anyone --- always use nylon straps - too many people die each year due to the immense potential energy stored in the chains when they break and bust their heads off.
(I am very avid offroad 4x4er) Go get some 30,000lb nylon hole straps and get someone with a big winch to pull it out. Letting the air out of the tires does help significantly to improve traction. We use it all of the time when we go muddin' and don't want to stay stuck. Believe me it would take me 5-10 mins to pull your tractor out with no danger to anyone. Go get someone to pull the thing out.

Thanks,
Andy

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Steve W....does that make sense?

03-27-2001 08:14:55

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Re: Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to Andy - Hammond, LA, 03-27-2001 05:25:27

I read your message, and I would think a Nylon strap would be a killer with a metal hook on the end, more so than a chain. Whenever I've had a chain break, it just drops, because since they stretch very little, there is no stored energy. Of course they are smoother for towing, as they do absorb energy.

So I've always used chains with my come along, because straps scare me. Maybe the physic majors can enlighten us.

Take Care
Steve

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chuck

03-27-2001 10:34:46

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Re: Re: Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to Steve W....does that make sense?, 03-27-2001 08:14:55

Steve, I have to agree with you. I do some off roading as well as a lot of pulling things with my 8N. Cables and nylon straps both can whip around with lethal energy when they break and suddenly release all that pent up energy. Chains just drop. I was always told to put a tarp over a cable or nylon strap to help reduce the whiplash if it broke and to operate the winch from inside the vehicle for whiplash protection. Now if you have a chain on the end of a cable and the chain breaks so that there is a piece of it attached to the cable, watch out. The cable can whip the chain around and do some real damage. I feel safer with chains only.

Nylon cables are great for reducing the shock load when trying to yank a 4 wheeler out of the mud. I have pulled two bumpers off of trucks using only chains (one was mine and one was the other guy's). A Nylon cable would have softened the blow to the bumpers in these cases. However I don't know if the pulls would have been successful. In both cases the trucks got unstuck, albeit without their bumpers.

chuck
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slim

03-27-2001 12:09:33

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chuck, 03-27-2001 10:34:46

If you are just straight pulling, you are probably right about the chain dropping. I worked at a COOP where the spreader trucks were always getting stuck. They would try to "jerk" each other out with chains. When one of these let go the chain usually went through the windshield of the stuck truck. It got pretty expensive guick. They went to straps hoping they would stretch a little when jerking. I left for another job before they found out if this worked or not.

slim

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Barry N Indiana

03-27-2001 03:46:58

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

If you don't have a tree of solid anchor nearby go to a home improvement store and get a large mobile home anchor. They screw in. You'd be surprised how much you can pull against these things with a come along...when you're done put a pipe in it and screw it out.

Good luck

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Bill

03-26-2001 21:50:35

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Pray that her daddy does not have a shotgun or a bad temper and fess up. Then he will probably help you. He loves his daughter you know.

Bill Stanley

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Brad TX

03-26-2001 20:54:49

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Get you a boat anchor and set it, then hook your come-a-long to the anchor. I 've done this many a time and it works well.

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Ray

03-26-2001 18:34:02

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

I have been stuck in mud many times when cultivating around water holes in South Dakota back 35 years ago. They don't drain water holes with tile like they do here in Iowa, SD is so flat there is no low area to drain to. Sooo, my recommendation is to get a larger tractor and pull it out. That will take 5 minutes and no sweat nor danger. Use a good quality log chain so it doesn't snap and crack you in the face.

I have never heard of anyone trying to get out with Logs strapped to tires. That sounds like a cousin who tried to start his cold IH by burning wood under it. He had fire coming out the gas filler hole before he got it put out!!

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Scott(Ks.)

03-26-2001 18:23:30

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Take a picture of it. Someday you can look at it and laugh. Then go call a good neighbor with a big tractor and pull it out. It doesn't matter what color tractor your neighbor has, we won't tell anybody if you don't!

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Pitch

03-26-2001 17:13:49

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

While doin my time with Uncle Sam's Misguided Children we used to unstick tanks by anchoring cables to a tree or other very solid fixed object and the other end to the tracks. then you would put it in REVERSE and the cable would wrap under and around the track thereby providing lift and winching action plus giving the machine something solid to run up on. It might work if you let most of the air out of the tires and tried it. Then again you might break something or kill youself if something went wrong. Go get a big tractor or a truck with a big winch on it.

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Andy Mn

03-26-2001 16:36:19

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Been There and Done That with an F250 extended cab.

Get a winch, come-a-long and chain or another BIG tractor.

Be careful.

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Dave 50 8N

03-26-2001 16:27:10

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Know anyone with a bigger tractor or truck w/winch?

I just got mine out of mud yesterday am. Can't imagine jacking in mud, either, like above post said.

I shoveled (alot) and even put wood chunks as a "ramp." No workie. Ended up getting long chain and come-along attached to a cemented in fencepost and pulled tractor out.

If no tree/tractor, etc., I wonder if a big metal bar driven at an angle in dryer ground would work to winch against.

Good luck!

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Safety check !

03-26-2001 16:17:21

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Jacking in the mud sounds risky. May be tried and true by the old pros, but too much chance of mishap.

Gravity + H2O = Rapid descent.

Towing seems far safer.

My hunch is to stall the in-laws until you can get a free tow, wash the tractor squeaky clean and return it with a new part or two.

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03-26-2001 14:50:24

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Here is a sugestion...

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Bruce Daman

03-26-2001 15:59:25

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Re: Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to ED, 03-26-2001 14:50:24

Best thing is to jack up rear wheels, then fill in underneath with something solid. Broken up cement blocks work very well. Throw enough of them in there any the is no mud that can not be gotten out of...

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03-26-2001 14:47:33

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Re: 8n stuck in mud in reply to chris thomas, 03-26-2001 14:41:31

Be careful!!!
This can cause the tractor to turn over!!!

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