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6 v to 12 v conversion

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Morley

06-03-2001 09:50:26




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Just wondering if it is posssible to conver a 6 v dc system to 12cv. Any suggesttions




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Tyler(WA)

06-04-2001 06:55:57




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 Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to Morley, 06-03-2001 09:50:26  
Alternators charge fully at lower rpm than generators and they are cheaper than either the generator or the regulator that they replace. Simple design and easy maintenance are two good reasons to "UPGRADE" your system.

Sometimes, newer designs ARE better.

Here's a link that might help.



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John

06-03-2001 22:23:39




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 Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to Morley, 06-03-2001 09:50:26  
Why? The shop manual for that tractor will only cover the stock 6 volt system. Besides a properly working 6 volt system will start the tractor in even the coldest weather. As for that one wire alternator you engine may not turn fast enough to excite the alternator.

That equals no charging



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Duey (IA)

06-04-2001 04:47:04




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 Re: Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to John, 06-03-2001 22:23:39  
John, I have a WD,WD45 and a C all converted for 20 to 40 years. They put out 35 amps at just above an idle, which means a fully charged battery, in very little time, at lower engine speeds. The starter ( 6 volt ) spins the engine over twice as fast and drains the battery half as much, especially on the WD45, when the engine is hot.
Duey



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John

06-04-2001 23:21:31




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 Re: Re: Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to Duey (IA), 06-04-2001 04:47:04  
2 a : ENERGIZE b : to produce a magnetic field in

I am willing to bet you have to rev the engine full out before you start charging. 12 volts is only needed with a Diesel engine My 160 with its Perkins AD 152 needs to be cranked about 60 to 90 seconds before it will start at about 20 degrees F so don't tell me about hard starting engines a well tuned gas engine will start in less than 10 seconds at 20 degrees.

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Duey (IA)

06-05-2001 05:29:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to John, 06-04-2001 23:21:31  
John, You are talking generators. The alternator is totaly different. Also, my converted WD45 starts in less than 3 seconds at 25 below zero. The engine idles at 600 RPM, the alternator pegs the amp gauge at 900 RPM and indicates minimum charge after less than 2 minutes. This same tractor, when plowing with 4-16s, hitting gumbo and the engine killing because I wasn't quick enough on the clutch, would not even turn the engine over with 6 volts!! Waiting several minutes for it to cool down was required before the starter could turn it over enough to start. This was very hard on starters. Had to replace several. I even tried reduction gears on the drive end and still have the cut off armature. Converted to 12 volt and have had the same starter on for 37 years. I know it works!!! Duey

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John

06-05-2001 07:48:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to Duey (IA), 06-05-2001 05:29:35  
An alternator is a;

THREE PHASE AC GENERATOR WITH SIX DIODES TO CONVERT THE AC INTO DC YOU DUMBA$$



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Duey (IA)

06-05-2001 08:56:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to John, 06-05-2001 07:48:13  
John, Would you be so kind and condesending and stoop so low without bending as to accept my appology for yanking your chain?



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Duey (IA)

06-03-2001 18:37:54




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 Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to Morley, 06-03-2001 09:50:26  
Morley, I E-Mailed you a wiring diagram with part numbers and explanation. Duey



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steve

06-03-2001 17:36:53




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 Re: 6 v to 12 v conversion in reply to Morley, 06-03-2001 09:50:26  
the easiest way is to install a Delco 10SI that chevrolet used on a 1976 pickup truck. Go to Auto Zone and get a rebuild for $30. the alternator has an internal regulator. You will need a battery connection and two smaller wires for voltage regulation. The alternator is negative ground, so this will be changed at the same time. The starter will crank faster, but have no problems. You may have to add a dropping resistor for the coil or magneto. If you want to go ahead get the alternator and then ask for additonal help if needed.

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