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Farm machinery scrapped during the World Wars

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Adam in VA

07-18-2003 10:34:07




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I was just watching a program on the History Channel called "Modern Marvels: The Junkyard." They were talking about scrap collecting helped fuel the war machine during the World Wars. No doubt the these scrap drives were important, but one image from the program haunts me.....They showed a picture of a pile of scrap about to be broken down and processed and I could clearly make out several steam engines, early tractors, and various other parts. It's amazing to think that some of those same machines are worth more than a $100,000 today. On some level I say that it is a shame that more of these valuable pieces could not be saved, but then I remember that the price of freedom does not come cheap.

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Brown Dirt Cowboy

07-21-2003 12:22:47




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 Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World Wars in reply to Adam in VA, 07-18-2003 10:34:07  
Go down to the scrapyards today and look around, not many tractors but lots of machinery that should be saved.Tom



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rhudson

07-20-2003 19:03:27




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 Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World Wars in reply to Adam in VA, 07-18-2003 10:34:07  
i had a machine shop that was purchased from two brothers that were in their seventies. during breaks, they would talk to us about breaking up hit and miss engines and steam engines of various brands and designs. this was back in the early thirties, Japanes were inporting all the scrap metal the USA would sell. the brothers said they use to joke about the japanese sending the scrap back to usa in the form of bombs. some joke.

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Mary.

07-19-2003 18:26:27




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 Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World Wars in reply to Adam in VA, 07-18-2003 10:34:07  
Don,t forget. The Farmers back then farm with that stuff, 8-10 12 hours a day. Today you are playing with itYou have the know how to fix and tools to fix it. My Dad went from Horses to Tractors and knew very little about repairs and with 4th grade education ,not much change to learn. 80 years make a difference.



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Mark

07-19-2003 08:58:54




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 Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World Wars in reply to Adam in VA, 07-18-2003 10:34:07  
well, if you think that was a travesty, consider that right AFTER the war, the government scrapped most of the military aircraft....brand new P51's went straight to the smelters, some were sold to anybody who could afford to buy the gasoline to run them (he-he) for $1500 each. They now bring close to 2 million dollars each, other examples are priceless.



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Rich, NJ

07-20-2003 19:07:37




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 Re: Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World W in reply to Mark, 07-19-2003 08:58:54  
There is an Island in the Aleutians where the govt scrapped several P-38s. Some with less than 25 hours on them. Here's the funny part, If you find a Army Air Force plane in the water or somewhere, It's yours, Restore it ,whatever. But find a navy plane and it's theirs! no sooner will you get it off the bottom and the sailors boys show up demanding their property. And not a nickel in compensation for your troubles. It seems that a few guys found a WW2 wildcat in the deep,cold water of the Great Lakes and pulled it up some how. It was restored with many original parts still working (radio tubes) It's one of the few flyable wrecks around. Most are on static display. Up comes the USN with a demand for it's plane back. I believe that after much court hassles, it's now on some kind of loan arrangement, but ownership eventually reverts to the USN. Wreck divers advice, if it's blue, leave it there. Regards, Rich

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wdTom

07-18-2003 17:18:56




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 Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World Wars in reply to Adam in VA, 07-18-2003 10:34:07  
You are right! I have heard the same thing, a lot of "junk" was scrapped to help the war effort. Of course if there were dozens more of those rare tractors and equipment they would be worth less. On the other hand anything old and good is worth saving, not junking. But at least, as you point out, we aren't speaking German.



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Ed H.

07-18-2003 20:20:04




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 Re: Re: Farm machinery scrapped during the World W in reply to wdTom, 07-18-2003 17:18:56  
My father farmed with horses in the thirties, then with a f-12 in the early forties, before he enlisted in the army engineer corp....if asked he would tell me alot on how things were during the depression, and WW11....if he was still with us i can just here him say (on the subject of scraping old iron) " WE WOULD HAVE DONE ANTHING TO GET THAT DAMN WAR OVER"....I saw the same show on the history channel , still , old iron was a small price to pay

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