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archie cope

07-29-2004 08:01:32




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I borrowed a B many years ago from a good neighbor to cut my grass with and fell in love with it because it worked so well. I was looking for something to cut grass with last spring and happened onto a B with belly mower and bought it. Still works great but it's 35 years later now and we are slightly stiffer than our former fast and shifty selves. It aint big on creature comforts, Uncle Arthuritis protests every time I try to crawl up on that cute little orange thing. I am wondering if there was a ladder, hand holds or some other access facilatator on it that has been lost or removed? Also it seems if the steering column were a little shorter it would allow more manuvering room. Can anyone suggest a word of caution about what I might lose if I shortened it up? Allis Chalmers must have had a reason for the length.

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Gene

07-30-2004 09:05:59




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to archie cope, 07-29-2004 08:01:32  
I would have thought that someone who had shortened the steering column whould respond.

Shortening the steering column will not change the steering geometry or make steering harder or easier. No opinion on if you should do so. But, I have often thought another inch or two between the seat and steering wheel would make life a lot easier.

As the others have responded, moving the seat back another inch or two would probably be easier and give you more leg room.

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DocGreen

07-29-2004 17:43:59




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to archie cope, 07-29-2004 08:01:32  
The suggestion to get a step from Roger Van Camp was right on. I have one and it makes a world of difference. Also have a home-made one that works as well. To see one go to H.W. Blair's Allis B Restoration page.



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Butch

07-29-2004 10:39:58




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to archie cope, 07-29-2004 08:01:32  
There are a couple ways to fix it. The best way in my opinion is to find an aftermarket seat like a Monroe. You then mount from the rear, stepping on the drawbar and swing a leg over the seat. They are no longer made but not hard to find used. Plan on rebuilding it meaning bushings and a shock but it is darned well worth it for both mounting and riding comfort. The only problem is if you have a rear rockshaft mounted and need to leave it on for some reason, it is in the way of rear mounting the tractor. If replacing the seat is not an option then weld up a step so you can climb up from the front. Roger Vancamp sells the steps ready to bolt on. My father often said that he wondered why A-C built such a fine tactor but left no way for an operator to get on the thing, lol

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Dick L

07-29-2004 11:41:31




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Butch, 07-29-2004 10:39:58  
Didn't you ever watch any Tom Mix movies? How he got on his horse over the rear when goin after the bad guys is how its done.



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Butch

07-30-2004 04:45:12




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Dick L, 07-29-2004 11:41:31  
Dick, you know how old I am, I'll watch you do it first an iffen ya make it I'll give it a whirl but better have a squad handy.



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Dick L

07-30-2004 12:40:37




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Butch, 07-30-2004 04:45:12  
Old folks can dream a little, cant they? {:^D



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Archie

07-29-2004 11:08:26




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Butch, 07-29-2004 10:39:58  
I have the rockshaft and have already invested some time in re-upolstring the flat seat. I have to ageee with your Dad. It seems like Allis spent their money engineering their Tractors to do work and cut cost by not concerning themselves with operator ease. Does anybody know if that was the philosophy?



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Gene

07-29-2004 08:59:30




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to archie cope, 07-29-2004 08:01:32  
I have the same problem, old age. Allis probably built those tractors to fit people 50 - 60 years ago. People age getting taller and in my case bigger. I have similiar problem with the WD. When I step on the brakes I disconnect the hand clutch.

I have an IH Cub. Getting into and out of the seat is a problem. For an old man that 4 foot from the top of the tire to the ground is an obstacle course.

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Archie

07-29-2004 12:14:06




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Gene, 07-29-2004 08:59:30  
I like the way Hoot Gibson did it, I'll park er under the hay mow and and just drop into the seat



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Russ

07-29-2004 16:34:56




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Archie, 07-29-2004 12:14:06  
Allis B; How about a crate to stand up on off the back or a 2 or 3 step sawed off stepladder off the back. Just don't get off in the field too often.



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Archie

07-29-2004 19:06:47




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Russ, 07-29-2004 16:34:56  
I'm always sure to pick up the yard before I mow. Once is enough. Hardest part is catching a time when nobodys watching.



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archie

07-30-2004 17:14:34




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to Archie, 07-29-2004 19:06:47  
This has been fun, I'm surprised no one has suggested a catapalt or pogo stick or maybe a small portable trampoline.



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Jerry (WI)

07-31-2004 00:19:28




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 Re: getting on and off in reply to archie, 07-30-2004 17:14:34  
For dismount, how about a jet ejection cockpit seat? Aim it for the front porch so ya can land in your favorite sittn chair.



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