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WD45 Pulling Question.

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stroyed1970

09-18-2005 17:18:41




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I know that there is a pulling discussion board, but I dont want to sort through all the smart butt comments about not pulling with a Green or Red tractor. My WD45 is going to the local farm stock pulls. I was wondering if there were any tips out there for a little edge on power. Maybe a certain hotter spark plug for instance. I watch the pulls a lot. It seems if it is not Red or Green, it doesnt get in the top ten. I would like to see Orange show them up. Thanks for your suggestions in advance. Dennis

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Dick L

09-19-2005 16:40:09




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 Re: WD45 Pulling Question. in reply to stroyed1970, 09-18-2005 17:18:41  
If your WD45 is up to snuff you probly won"t have a power problem. Your problems will most likely will be of balance and choosing the correct tire pressure for the track at local club pulls. If it is not up to where it could be at stock HP and you hit the ballance and tire pressure you still might give the rest of them a run for there money. If it were me I would get the tire pressure down around 8 to 10 pounds.

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John (MO)

09-19-2005 09:19:38




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 Re: WD45 Pulling Question. in reply to stroyed1970, 09-18-2005 17:18:41  
There are lots of AC tractors that are VERY competitive in all sorts of pulls. It’s just pretty much a matter how much work you want to do and how much money you want to invest. You are not going to take your stock field AC WC-WD-WD45 to a pull where everyone else in running bored and stroked engines and place in the top of the class. There are lots of these tractors out there with engines that now have nearly twice the cubic inches the had when new. Many of these tractors are now producing 3 or 4 times the horsepower they had when new. I don’t care if you are running AC against JD or IH or what, if one 4000 pound tractor makes 35 hp and another makes 100+ hp, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out which one is going to win most of the time.

A lot of AC WC-WD-WD45 tractors start pulling at about 3500 # and go up through 5000# or more. In these weight classes they are very competitive when going up against any other color tractor that has had a similar amount of work and money invested in it. You need to read your local club rules carefully and figure out what division you want to run in, then do everything that is allowed under those rules. You can bet the competition has read the rules and are pushing them to the limit. Good luck

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Don Dittmar

09-19-2005 04:36:09




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 Re: WD45 Pulling Question. in reply to stroyed1970, 09-18-2005 17:18:41  
I have a friend that is an a/c guy and pulls 2 wd 45's and wins regularly with them, beating out m's and g's. If intersted I can have him contact you and he can tell you what to do. drop me an email



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Rick Corder

09-18-2005 17:40:29




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 Re: WD45 Pulling Question. in reply to stroyed1970, 09-18-2005 17:18:41  
I have been tossing the thought around myself,as to whether or not start taking some of my AC's to the local tractor pulls. I'll probably wait until next year early,if I decide to do so. I've got a WD45 narrow front and a WD45 wide front...which of those two would be better? Also have some D17's and a D19,along with an Unstyled WC. Have several of the smaller ones,too. So...which one would be good to start out pulling on? Need some opinions here guys! What do you all think...and please,keep it clean. Oh,and I have the same question as stroyed1970 has...what could you do to help it pull better without costing an arm and a leg. It'll just be for the fun of it. Thanks in advance. Rick

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Texas Denny

09-19-2005 21:11:49




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 Re: WD45 Pulling Question. in reply to Rick Corder, 09-18-2005 17:40:29  
When a tractor is setup correctly and doing a good pull, the front end either barely touches the ground or is off the ground. If you have a wide front, one wheel stays on the ground and gives you a measure of steering. Beyond that, I don't think the front end matters.

Pulling with Allis's is a tough road. They do win occasionally. But they are a lighter tractor. Allis used to advertise that as an advantage. And pull classes are usually based on horsepower (at least the ones I went to). If it is a class strictly on weight, the Allis is a winner because of its better power to weight ration than red or green. If the classes are based on horsepower only, Allis is at a disadvantage.

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Dick L

09-20-2005 18:53:39




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 Denny in reply to Texas Denny, 09-19-2005 21:11:49  
You would make em happy around here if you could make em feel that Allis Chalmers was at a disadvantage when I pull in.


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Texas Denny

09-20-2005 19:37:59




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 Re: Denny in reply to Dick L, 09-20-2005 18:53:39  
Hi. I believe you are standing in front of a weighted C. My comments were in regard to an unweighted WD-45 since the factory weight is less than a Super M and John Deere 70.

Congratulations on your success! Nice looking tractors.



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Dick L

09-21-2005 06:48:42




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 Re: Denny in reply to Texas Denny, 09-20-2005 19:37:59  
My wife normally does not take pictures of the tractors that beat me but the the WC, WD, and the WD45 beat the Oliver 77 more than other brands in the 4500 pound class.



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Hurst

09-18-2005 19:30:45




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 Re: WD45 Pulling Question. in reply to Rick Corder, 09-18-2005 17:40:29  
Try the unofficial Allis board. There are people who pull allises all the time over there. Most are just getting back from GOTO. If it were mine, I would drop in a D17 engine into the 45 and then get the weight shifted right. Didn't mention what you were running out of, power or traction??? Try www.allischalmers. com (remove the space on it, some reason you can't post this link as it appears??)

Hurst

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