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mongo66

07-17-2007 10:58:57




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Can anyone give me advice on using my D17 along with a 3 bottom hydraulic plow, novice farmer trying to learn. Question: Should you always plow in 1st gear at the slowest speed? And when should you use the low and high range power lever on the right side of the tractor?? I had been plowing in 1st gear and not sure what range I was in because the gear or bolt was broken but now has been repaired. Any advice would be greatly appreciated as Id like to use my machine to its max ability without having it break down. Project: Plowing for deer feed plots, also what is a good depth to set the hydraulic plow for a good field consistency?

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J Henkle

07-19-2007 19:27:04




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-17-2007 10:58:57  
I also food plot with a D17. I need some ground speed to get the dirt to roller over correctly. Go to slow and sod/corn stocks can drop back in the furrow right side up. High 2nd low third works well for me. I have even used the high side of 3rd on soil with light trash.

Here's a food plot tip. Spring for a 6' tiller for that D17. The are very well matched for each other. (Spin your wheels all the way in.)

Mow short and wait a week. Spray with Roundup wait 10 days. Broadcast your NPK, lime and seed, and till once. Your done. I have had great results with corn and beans. Smaller seeds should be broadcasted after tilling and drug or rolled in.

Good luck and don't let them talk you into a F-Fo-For-Ford... There I said it.... : )

Jody

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mongo66

07-23-2007 07:11:34




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to J Henkle, 07-19-2007 19:27:04  
Jody
Thanks for the advice, good to know others have the same equipment for food plots, I will definitely keep my eyes open for a cultivator. Last year I had a farmer put in about 1.5 acre food plot w/ his D15, many deer followed, this year I bought his spare D17 and then I plowed (approx 4 acres) and had a breakdown and I had to bring it to the shop as some linkage broke in the Hi/Low shift lever and clutch, very disappointing but understandable since it is about 50 yrs old. My food plots were put on hold and Ill have to do the Aug plant of clover and brassicas when I get my tractor back this week. I guess in retrospect I should have invested in a newer tractor but it is all a learning experience with this machinery, soils, ph, ferts, lime, herbicides etc. Im thinking about selling my D17 when it is repaired and upgrading to a newer model in a couple of years but who knows. On a different subject have you used Poast herbicide on your fields for grass/weed control, the product Arrest didnt work as well as I thought it would. John

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J Henkle

07-23-2007 16:47:05




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-23-2007 07:11:34  
No No No... That was a 3pt tiller... (like a giant garden tiller, PTO powered) : )

Fix it and keep it, it's A LOT of dependable horsepower once it's in good working order. Size is right if you’re doing that many acres too. Best thing I ever did was converting to 12V positive ground and add electronic ignition. Takes care of a lot of small issues.

I don't know your geographic location but take a look at this site (Iowa Whitetail). You will like the "Wildlife Habitat" section. Matter of fact there is a "Poast Application" thread going on right now. Great bunch of guys will in to help, much as this site.

Broadcast some oats and winter wheat in with your clover. Actually till, broadcast NPK/oat/ww and drag or re-till lightly. Cultipack or lawn roll the plot, broadcast clover/small seeds and re-roll or cultipack. It will be gorgeous this spring. (Try to time the planting just before a rain.) The oats will die with the first hard frost and the ww will provide a cover crop in the spring. Helps with deer and moisture. Mow the wheat in late spring above your clover ect...

Link

I'm "Field Service" over there, drop me a PM on I.W. if I can help with some plot questions.

Jody

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tim[in]

07-18-2007 12:57:06




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-17-2007 10:58:57  
I pulled 3-16"s in second low. It seems the faster i go the shallower it runs and just doesnt seem to do as good a job. I'm afraid that pulling so hard so fast would wear on the clutch too.Your soil type and condition and shape of tractor and the plow parts and land shape[hills,flat ,bottom] will affect you too. At first go as slow as you feel comfortable with till you get used to it.



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arthur ward

07-18-2007 08:34:05




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-17-2007 10:58:57  
thats a heck of a tractor just for food plots. make sure the engine runs long enough to keep the moisture out of the oil.

i like allis chalmers tractors but jeas...thats overkill. have you thought about an 8n Ford? much more suited for that type of work.

post pics of your progress



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mongo66

07-18-2007 08:53:43




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to arthur ward, 07-18-2007 08:34:05  
AW
you are probably right with the overkill statement but it still is a fun toy to have on this hobbyfarm, It is a good setup for trails and plots and lakeshore landscaping, plus the D17 has a bucket so it does a good job plowing up the long drive in the winter here in MN.



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02XLT4X4

07-18-2007 08:50:08




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to arthur ward, 07-18-2007 08:34:05  
A 8N is worth about as much as a D-17, I wouldn't downgrade to one of them. If you need it for doing anything else (pushing snow for example) the D-17 would make a fool out of the 8N.



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mongo66

07-18-2007 08:59:47




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to 02XLT4X4, 07-18-2007 08:50:08  
O2XLT
do you agree with others I should be turning the field over in 2nd gear High range when I plow, that seems to be the consensus. The D17 is pulling a Hydraulic 3 point plow at a depth of about 5 -6 inches



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02XLT4X4

07-18-2007 12:28:14




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-18-2007 08:59:47  
I have never actually been around a D-17, but my WD-45 will pull a snap coupler 3-16 plow in third without much fuss. Second seems to be its sweet spot, the ride gets a little rough the faster you go.

I would start at a slower medium speed, no point in trying to reset the land speed record just plowing a food plot.



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Jack a

07-17-2007 13:03:03




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-17-2007 10:58:57  
2nd high (which is 5th gear) or 3rd high (6th gear). 2nd high may be better in most conditions. I pull 4x14 in 2nd low (3rd) plowing about 9" deep but can plow in 3rd low (4th) at 6". This in heavy black soil with clay mix in SE MN.



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D17 man

07-17-2007 11:44:50




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 Re: D17 Plowing advice in reply to mongo66, 07-17-2007 10:58:57  
when i plowed with a 3 bottom with my d17 i was in 2nd high and when its got tough i'd pull the lever back into low



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